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Decent opening weekend box office gross for Red Tails: $19 million. The production cost was $58 million (plus another $20-30 million in promotion/advertising).

As a general rule, films that have an opening weekend box office greater than 30% of the production cost end up making a profit over the long run.

http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/
 
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Yes, but let's give them benefit of doubt and put the kill ratio at 2:1, it's odd though that they had no aces...
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IF I'm not mistaken they did have one ace. (I saw him interviewed once I think)

Given the large numbers of accidents in that era their kill ratio may actually have been even less than 2:1. Which is not very good for the time. Although I don't like making conjectures like that.
 
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So what did Tuskegee really mean historically? 80 pilots destroying 250 planes total air and ground obviously meant little in the course of WWII, so its meaning was symbolic in that sense. the fact that it keeps getting rehashed is proof of that.

Consider that with only 80 guys, you were getting the best and brightest of the blacks available at the time since there was such a high symbolic value placed on that squadron. Todays military is considered by Blacks themselves to be a place where they a 'fair shake'. Having been closely associated with the military I can tell you that they get more than equality, affirmative action is alive and well. The military is 20% black, that tells you a lot right there.

Interestingly though in units where quality and skill are not sacrificed for social opportunity, like fighter pilots, blacks lag far behind. I can tell you that the Air Force goes out of its way to find and promote qualified blacks, but unlike cops or firefighters they will not lower their standards. Sadly the results are predictable. Only about 2% of pilots are black.

Now you can understand why blacks and Obama put such a high value on symbolism and exaggerating the real success
stories. Blacks just have not been able to compete well in anything involving techical skill. I really don't want it that way because it means that there isn't much hope for improvement. We will always have this hating minority who will never stop complaining instead of producing. Note the ever present spin and tone in the article below, it is always white racism that's the problem. Will we ever be able to be honest?



http://www.stripes.com/military-lif...ilots-land-in-air-force-navy-cockpits-1.11138
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Are you, in your own way, saying something like this?

"Harvard Student Says Blacks Genetically Inferior"

http://www.growtheheckup.com/2010/04/harvard-student-says-blacks-genetically.html


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Are you, in your own way, saying something like this?

"Harvard Student Says Blacks Genetically Inferior"

http://www.growtheheckup.com/2010/04/harvard-student-says-blacks-genetically.html


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Not to change the subject but is there some part of her assessment which is flawed? Forget bleeding heart political correctness for the moment.
It's a fact of life that sometimes the truth hurts. Personally I think our society is far more thin skinned to painful truths than we were even just a couple of generations ago. But I digress.

Just for the sake of argument, even if a particular group of people are inferior on average in one particular area. It doesn't necessarily mean they are inferior overall.
 
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Not to change the subject but is there some part of her assessment which is flawed? Forget bleeding heart political correctness for the moment.
It's a fact of life that sometimes the truth hurts. Personally I think our society is far more thin skinned to painful truths than we were even just a couple of generations ago. But I digress.

Just for the sake of argument, even if a particular group of people are inferior on average in one particular area. It doesn't necessarily mean they are inferior overall.
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Another possible area of agreement. When talking statistics and racial groups, there are certain areas where one may do better than the other, I'll but that. In the long term time frame, I think we'll all end up pretty close.

edit: my response was to Mav88, still curious.


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Are you, in your own way, saying something like this?

"Harvard Student Says Blacks Genetically Inferior"
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Obvious whoever that is referring to intellectual ability and boy I sure hope not. Do you understand the serious implications if they really are? We know they are superior athletically and nobody seems to question that.

The question is then why blacks are constantly underperforming intellectually? The liberal experiment has failed, handouts and preferential treatment has not solved this problem. The incessant rants about racism will not solve anything. The only way blacks will achieve anything is if they do it themselves like everyone else has.
 
Decent opening weekend box office gross for Red Tails: $19 million. The production cost was $58 million (plus another $20-30 million in promotion/advertising).

As a general rule, films that have an opening weekend box office greater than 30% of the production cost end up making a profit over the long run.
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Lucas put up $93M, so Lucas will lose money, good! that lefty asshole deserves it. Keep in mind this project is over 20 years old, and it came in second place to some movie which is a lame sequel about some vampire woman (Underworld Awakening). Lucas has certainly lost his touch. Also blacks were encouraging attendance for obvious reasons


Real Talk: Four Reasons You Should See 'Red Tails'
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Read more: http://www.essence.com/2012/01/19/real-talk-four-reasons-you-should-see-red-tails/#ixzz1kEbZfy8X
 
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