Hillary's Lead Disintegrates: She Is Now Doing Worse Than In 2008, As Trump Surges

Hillary's Lead Disintegrates: She Is Now Doing Worse Than In 2008, As Trump Surges
Just when Hillary Clinton thought her political fiascoes would be the worst of her ongoing troubles as she glides through the Democrat primaries, and then takes on Trump sure to find a Warren Buffett-funded victory, suddenly everything appears to have gone wrong in what is most important to the scandal-ridden former Secretary of State and presidential contender: her second - and final - campaign for president.

According to WaPo, if one compares where Clinton is now in the Real Clear Politics polling average, the 2016 picture and the 2008 picture aren't really all that similar; in fact suddenly the trapdoor beneath Hillary appears to have sprung open. "Nationally, she was doing much better in 2008 than she is right now, perhaps in part because the anti-Clinton vote in 2008 was still split between two people -- Barack Obama and John Edwards -- instead of just one. But that recent trend line, a function of two new national polls that were close after a bit of a lull, is not very good news."





Not surprisingly, Clinton is trailing badly in New Hampshire, which is the home turf of her main socialist opponent. In 2008,





What little silver lining exists, is that in Iowa, Hillary is running a little better than she did in 2008, although as seen on the chart below even here her lead has plunged recently. In 2008 it wasn't until the last week that she fell out of the lead. She eventually came in third.





The problem remains the national race, and what's worse, if the 2008 past is prologue and if Hillary's lead in Iowa evaporates and she loses, it may be the end for the former first lady: back then she lost three-quarters of her lead after the caucuses although she did gain some of it back after her win in New Hampshire.





And while these numbers can easily change, one person who is certain to capitalize on Hillary's sudden collapse is Donald Trump, who as we showed recently has become the bookmakers' favorite after trailing badly as recently as September, even as Trump's republican competitors drop like flies on their own, the most recent casualty being Ben Carson whose campaign is all but over following news from CNN that Carson's campaign finance chairman Dean Parker submitted his resignation.

Finally, moments ago the WSJ reported that Donald Trump has opened a double-digit lead over his next-closest Republican rival, less than three weeks before the first votes of the 2016 presidential race are cast, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds.



A third of Republican primary voters in the nationwide survey said they favored Mr. Trump to be the GOP nominee, followed by Texas Sen. Ted Cruz at 20% support, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 13% and retired pediatric neurosurgeon Ben Carson at 12%.



In December, Mr. Trump had led the No. 2 candidate, Mr. Cruz, by 5 percentage points. In the new poll, his lead widened to 13 points.

And so what was considered humor by most pundits as recently as last summer is becoming an all too possible reality: president Trump?

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no republican has ever beat Hillary, only a democrat can do that, and if Hillary was running back then against John Mccain she would have beat the shit out of him. Something to think about if you are a democrat and want a democrat to win even if she represents nothing about what you stand for. I doubt a democrat will ever vote for a republican, but many of us former republicans would vote for Bernie.
 
Trump is no John McCain.
I hear ya, politics is just entertainment. In 2016 the whole et politics thread could just be links to people magazine. Thing is, after 8 years of Obama, if the President is just going to talk, why not elect the best talker? 2020 I'm voting for the best looking woman.
 
no republican has ever beat Hillary, only a democrat can do that, and if Hillary was running back then against John Mccain she would have beat the shit out of him. Something to think about if you are a democrat and want a democrat to win even if she represents nothing about what you stand for. I doubt a democrat will ever vote for a republican, but many of us former republicans would vote for Bernie.


You're delusional. No one is going to vote for Bernie except a bunch of losers who respond to his promises of freebies.
 
You're delusional. No one is going to vote for Bernie except a bunch of losers who respond to his promises of freebies.
I'll vote for anybody who is different.
And Bernie is not promising freebies. He's made it very clear that he is going to pay for it all with my money.
I'd vote for him just for comedy relief. In a democrats mind the two greatest problems facing the world today are the rich and the poor, and they have a plan to eliminate us both and make everybody the same.
 
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I'll vote for anybody who is different.
And Bernie is not promising freebies. He's made it very clear that he is going to pay for it all with my money.
I'd vote for him just for comedy relief. In a democrats mind the two greatest problems facing the world today are the rich and the poor, and they have a plan to eliminate us both and make everybody the same.
The only people who will vote for Sanders are takers, not payers. It 's sad you think your vote is meaningless (comic relief) and the elimination of class, redistribution of a persons wealth is something good.
 
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