Quote from dddooo:
Fair enough and that's exactly why I said that even conservatives don't (or should not ) think these are good things.
The fact of matter is 90% of the country are not better off today than they were 7 years ago, many are worse off. And that's before we take our huge national debt into account which we and our children will eventually have to pay and the payment will one way or another come out of our already shrunk and shrinking real incomes.
