Hillary is going to win’ in 2016, says Warren Buffett

http://www.businessinsider.com/cliff-asness-wsj-op-ed-about-warren-buffett-2012-12

Consider how every business-school student, investment banker and investment analyst on Earth has been taught to choose whether to invest in a specific project or company. You make a spreadsheet (a napkin will do sometimes). You put in your best guess of the future cash flows, and you discount those cash flows back to the present at some required rate of return you believe reflects the risk entailed. Of course, opinions about the future cash flows and the proper discount rate can vary widely, but the essential methodology is ubiquitous.

Now here's the kicker: Nobody who pays taxes and has ever done this exercise has failed (while sober) to use after-tax cash flows in this calculation. Somewhere in the spreadsheet there is a number, say 20%, or 28%, or a Gallic 75%, representing the taxes you'll pay on the assumed cash flow—and you only count the amount you'll get after paying this tax. If you turn the tax rate up high enough, projects or companies that looked like good investments become much less attractive and vice versa.

While Asness acknowledges in the piece that Buffett is right in regards to wealthy Americans still investing despite higher tax rates, he believes that there will be fewer and much smaller investments if the after-tax cash flows don't look so good.

What's more is Asness explains how those who don't think taxes matter are being ignorant.

Taxes matter. They matter to business and life decisions alike. They matter to the rich and to the poor. They are, or at least they should be, incorporated into nearly every financial decision made. Discussing tax policy without acknowledging this fundamental reality is bizarre. Actually asserting the opposite is willful ignorance.



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The G.O.P. says global competitiveness requires the United States to reduce its corporate tax rate. But the United States actually has the lowest corporate tax burden of any of the member nations of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

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Revenue Statistics of O.E.C.D. Member Countries, 2010
If taxes are low historically and in comparison with our global competitors, how are Republicans able to maintain that taxes are excessively high? They do so by ignoring the effective tax rate and concentrating solely on the statutory tax rate, which is often manipulated to make it appear that rates are much higher than they really are.
 
The G.O.P. says global competitiveness requires the United States to reduce its corporate tax rate. But the United States actually has the lowest corporate tax burden of any of the member nations of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

31economist-bartlett2-blog480.jpg
Revenue Statistics of O.E.C.D. Member Countries, 2010
If taxes are low historically and in comparison with our global competitors, how are Republicans able to maintain that taxes are excessively high? They do so by ignoring the effective tax rate and concentrating solely on the statutory tax rate, which is often manipulated to make it appear that rates are much higher than they really are.



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because your chart is bullshit -- why does leftist always love to hide their disgustingly high taxes in gdp charts?

The incentive is simple. America taxes profits no matter where they are earned, at a rate of 39% — higher than in any other rich country. When a company becomes foreign through a merger, or “inverts”, it no longer owes American tax on its foreign profit. It still owes American tax on its American profit.[17]

Inverse logic". The Economist. 20 September 2014.



The G.O.P. says global competitiveness requires the United States to reduce its corporate tax rate. But the United States actually has the lowest corporate tax burden of any of the member nations of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

31economist-bartlett2-blog480.jpg
Revenue Statistics of O.E.C.D. Member Countries, 2010
If taxes are low historically and in comparison with our global competitors, how are Republicans able to maintain that taxes are excessively high? They do so by ignoring the effective tax rate and concentrating solely on the statutory tax rate, which is often manipulated to make it appear that rates are much higher than they really are.
 
because your chart is bullshit -- why does leftist always love to hide their baloney in gdp charts?
Because you can't understand a burden without knowing the size of the load AND the strength of the entity carrying it.
 
The G.O.P. says global competitiveness requires the United States to reduce its corporate tax rate. But the United States actually has the lowest corporate tax burden of any of the member nations of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

31economist-bartlett2-blog480.jpg
Revenue Statistics of O.E.C.D. Member Countries, 2010
If taxes are low historically and in comparison with our global competitors, how are Republicans able to maintain that taxes are excessively high? They do so by ignoring the effective tax rate and concentrating solely on the statutory tax rate, which is often manipulated to make it appear that rates are much higher than they really are.


This is called deceiving with statistics. It's the only thing I can think of that democrats are proficient at.

Tax rate as a percentage of gdp doesn't mean a damn thing.

What matters is tax rate as a percentage of income. I don't know what the number is for tax rate as a percentage of income for corporations, but you can bet your bottom dollar it shows the exact opposite of what they are trying to deceive you into believing or they wouldn't be showing you this bogus statistic.
 
The G.O.P. says global competitiveness requires the United States to reduce its corporate tax rate. But the United States actually has the lowest corporate tax burden of any of the member nations of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

31economist-bartlett2-blog480.jpg
Revenue Statistics of O.E.C.D. Member Countries, 2010
If taxes are low historically and in comparison with our global competitors, how are Republicans able to maintain that taxes are excessively high? They do so by ignoring the effective tax rate and concentrating solely on the statutory tax rate, which is often manipulated to make it appear that rates are much higher than they really are.

Tax rate as a percentage of GDP - What completely meaningless Bullshiat!

The effective tax rate on a corporation is what matters.

I suppose now you think that U.S. corporations will stop doing inversion mergers so they can be taxed overseas because the U.S. corporate taxes as a percentage of GDP are low. What complete nonsense!
 
Tax rate as a percentage of GDP - What completely meaningless Bullshiat!

The effective tax rate on a corporation is what matters.

I suppose now you think that U.S. corporations will stop doing inversion mergers so they can be taxed overseas because the U.S. corporate taxes as a percentage of GDP are low. What complete nonsense!
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Tax rate as a percentage of GDP - What completely meaningless Bullshiat!

The effective tax rate on a corporation is what matters.

I suppose now you think that U.S. corporations will stop doing inversion mergers so they can be taxed overseas because the U.S. corporate taxes as a percentage of GDP are low. What complete nonsense!
The inversions do not necessarily mean that taxes are too high, but that a way of gaming the system to maximize return to shareholders has been discovered. Inversions would be performed (by those companies in a position to do so) even if taxes were low.

US corporate profits are at an all time high, so their taxes can't be much of a burden.
 
"People invest to make money, and potential taxes have never scared them off."

Geez. Obvious BS. Take a potential tax rate of 75% on an investment that has a 50% chance of doubling in value and a 50% chance of losing it all. No investor with a brain is going to touch it. I'm sure Warren knows this, just as he knows his followers (who also believe every word from Krugman) will ignore the obvious, take yet another leap of faith and believe in their prophet with all their hearts.
 
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