Hillary Clinton win = what for the economy?

Right, because people who are 60 or 65 today (and whom I specifically addressed) live until 100 or 120, right? Looks more like you fell for those who have a monetary interest to push stocks and etfs/index funds.

Are you completely discounting the possibility of what happened in Japan in the equity markets over the past 15-20 years that it might apply to US markets?

you have proven nothing. you offer no links.
here is a more typical allocation adjusted for increased life span
http://money.cnn.com/retirement/guide/investing_basics.moneymag/index7.htm
What's the best asset allocation for my age?
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The old rule of thumb used to be that you should subtract your age from 100 - and that's the percentage of your portfolio that you should keep in stocks. For example, if you're 30, you should keep 70% of your portfolio in stocks. If you're 70, you should keep 30% of your portfolio in stocks.

However, with Americans living longer and longer, many financial planners are now recommending that the rule should be closer to 110 or 120 minus your age. That's because if you need to make your money last longer, you'll need the extra growth that stocks can provide.

To find the right asset allocation for you, go to our asset allocation calculator.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatsp...allocation-to-follow-at-any-age/#5291912bf6f7

etc. etc.
 
Not sure what you mean exactly but if you mean to give up some money to the govt then could you please expound upon how you see the govt expanding the middle class?
In a democracy, Good Government, has to defined by the people at the ballot box. This is why broad, compulsory education is essential to a democracy. Voters can be misled, and poor or insufficient education can result in mistakes at the ballot box. In retrospect, we made a mistake when we voted in government that would champion supply-side economics, but we did not realize it until the middle class had been seriously weakened. Now we have a chance to correct these past errors and return to demand-side economics. If we do, the middle class will slowly recover and grow in size.

We are also experiencing very fast technological change and consequent globalization. Commerce, education, and government too, has not been able to keep up with the pace of change. The pace is slowing, and a clearer picture gradually emerging. Over time the commerce-education-technology-globalization gap will close. The middle class will come back. But this can only happen if we abandon supply-side economics, which we have learned doesn't produce the results we expected.

Supply-side economics is sometimes referred to as "trickle down" economics. The idea behind it is that by increasing the amount of capital controlled by the wealthy class you can benefit all classes, including the middle class. In practice, however, supply-side economics produced self-reinforcing transfers of capital from the middle class to the wealthy class, deficits, and cost shifting, all of which proved damaging to the middle class.

Those who benefited from the supply side economics of the past 35 years, emphasize contributory, secondary causes for the observed decline of the American Middle Class; secondary causes such as immigration, off shoring, globalization, free trade, fiscal profligacy, etc. The root cause of the slow decline of the middle class, however, was the adoption of supply side economics that ultimately left too little capital with labor and too much with the capital class, where it was not as efficiently employed as had been hoped. The result is the imbalance we see today. It is government that determines these things and the people select the government.

The government has the option of altering course, so that the middle class will spontaneously regenerate over the next 35 years. An obvious way to do this would be to reverse the actions taken that shifted the economy to supply side stimulus. This would mean a return to a more progressive income tax with more brackets and a greater spread in rates, i.e., opposite in direction from a flat tax! Even if tax rates were not lowered in the lowest brackets, and they should be a little, the desired effect will be achieved over time through lower deficits and hence lower inflation* in boom times. Inflation impacts all economic classes of course, but the relative effect increases inversely with income. Naturally, initiatives aimed at rebuilding the middle class can be undone by imprudent fiscal policy. Suffice it to say, there are virtually endless demand side initiatives the government could take that would push the process of rebuilding the middle class along. Clinton and Sanders, have both included a few of these in their platforms (which see). Trump's platform on the other hand would amount to acceleration of the supply-side effect.

Above, I have outlined features of government initiatives and policies that affect middle class economics, for better or for worse. There is a curious phenomena that I have observed. Government policies and actions are virtually always initiated with good intentions. When it is later discovered that a particular policy helps one segment of society but harms another, the segment benefited opposes change, even if they do not understand the mechanisms underlying their benefits. They are innocent of any intention to harm another segment of society. Those harmed, however, want change, but since they have no better understanding of underlying mechanisms than those benefiting, they can be easily convinced to support policies that are actually harmful to them. The other side, however, the side that opposes change, knows what they want; they always want more of the same.
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*There is a connection between deficits and inflation that isn't easily understood; hence the politicians preference for inflation over direct taxation, which is easily understood.
 
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In a democracy, Good Government, has to defined by the people at the ballot box. This is why broad, compulsory education is essential to a democracy. Voters can be misled, and poor or insufficient education can result in mistakes at the ballot box. In retrospect, we made a mistake when we voted in government that would champion supply-side economics, but we did not realize it until the middle class had been seriously weakened. Now we we have a chance to correct these past errors and return to demand-side economics. If we do, the middle class will slowly recover and grow in size.

We are also experiencing very fast technological change and consequent globalization. Commerce, education, and government too, has not been able to keep up with the pace of change. The pace is slowing, and a clearer picture gradually emerging. Over time the commerce-education-technology-globalization gap will close. The middle class will come back. But this can only happen if we abandon supply-side economics which we have learned doesn't produce the results we expected.

Supply-side economics is sometimes referred to as "trickle down" economics. The idea behind it is that by increasing the amount of capital controlled by the wealthy class you can benefit all classes, including the middle class. In practice, however, supply-side economics produced self-reinforcing, large transfers of capital from the middle class to the wealthy class, deficits, and cost transfers, all of which proved damaging to the middle class.

Those who benefited from the supply side economics of the past 35 years, emphasize contributory, secondary causes for the observed decline of the American Middle Class; secondary causes such as immigration, off shoring, globalization, free trade, etc. The root cause of the slow decline of the middle class, however, was the adoption of supply side economics that ultimately left too little capital with labor and too much with the capital class, where it was not as efficiently employed as had been hoped. The result was the imbalance we see today. It is government that determines these things and the people select the government.

The government has the option of altering course, so that the middle class will spontaneously regenerate over the next 35 years. An obvious way to do this would be to reverse the actions taken that shifted the economy to supply side stimulus. This would mean a return to a more progressive income tax with more brackets and a greater spread in rates, i.e., in the opposite direction from a flat tax! Even if tax rates were not lowered in the lowest brackets, and they should be a little, the desired effect will be achieved over time through lower deficits and hence lower inflation* in boom times. Inflation impacts all economic classes of course, but the relative effect increases inversely with income.

Suffice it to say, there are virtually endless demand side initiatives the government can take that will push this process along. Clinton and Sanders, have both included a few of these in their platforms (which see). Trump's platform on the other hand would amount acceleration of the supply-side effect.

Above, I have outlined features of government initiatives and policies that affect middle class economics, for better or for worse. There is a curious phenomena that I have observed. Although government policies and actions are virtually always initiated with good intentions, when it is later discovered that a particular policy helps one segment of society but harms another, the segment benefited opposes change, even if they do not understand the mechanisms underlying their benefits. They are innocent of any intention to harm another segment of society. Those harmed, however, want change, but since they have no better understanding of underlying mechanisms than those benefiting, they can be easily convinced to support policies that are actually harmful to them. The other side, however, the side that opposes change, knows what they want; they always want more of the same.
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*There is a connection between deficits and inflation that isn't easily understood; hence the politicians preference for inflation over direct taxation, which is easily understood.
You are putting forth some theory but I have no idea what you are talking about. What economic school of thought is that? Too little capital with labor? Working class never has any capital. Ask the govt workers. Do they have any capital? If you mean that the middle class has not enough money to spend then why not just abolish sales tax?
 
You are putting forth some theory but I have no idea what you are talking about. What economic school of thought is that? Too little capital with labor? Working class never has any capital. Ask the govt workers. Do they have any capital? If you mean that the middle class has not enough money to spend then why not just abolish sales tax?
You have identified a pernicious long-term effect of supply-side. It has resulted in no capital at all being left with the middle class. That means that opportunity has dried up for the middle class. When we had a strong middle class we were leaving some capital there. Not a lot but some. And of course a lot of jobs were created in the middle class. The Kaufman Foundation has studied job creation by various economic segments of the population. You might want to look up and read some of their articles.
 
You have identified a pernicious long-term effect of supply-side. It has resulted in no capital at all being left with the middle class. That means that opportunity has dried up for the middle class. When we had a strong middle class we were leaving some capital there. Not a lot but some. And of course a lot of jobs were created in the middle class. The Kaufman Foundation has studied job creation by various economic segments of the population. You might want to look up and read some of their articles.
What dried up opportunities do you have in mind? Investing? Spending?
 
the female office manager was literally gossiping about how other ladies dress and how just because one girl dresses a little slutty, she calls her tons of names ALL DAY LONG.


Whereas you, on the other hand, simply refer to her as "slutty"?
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You won't see significant changes, believe me, the one thing Trump is right about that this is going to be 8 more years of Obama, with perhaps some significant changes in a couple of aspects. Of course, you should look at solar energy at the first place.
 
ALL I WAS SAYING was LOOK at the WORLD NOW. HEAD OF IMF=WOMAN, HEAD OF FED=WOMAN, AND NOW FROM THE LOOKS OF IT, HEAD OF AMERICA= WOMAN.

Isn't it odd that just recently, women are starting to take over leadership? And no I am not sexist, I fully endorse Aung San Suu Kyi as an amazing woman fulfilling an important position.
Why do I support her? Because she's a Nobel Peace prize winner and she still is a woman-like figure and you can see she is a real person? Now Clinton on the other hand, I don't trust that evil C at all. She exudes evil.

Again, I just am a conspiracy nut and I feel like once Clinton does become President, it officially declares the sign of the times in which men have become neutered. After all we are living in the Age of Acquarius after all.

actually, i think all world leaders should be Women
[i've said this in the past]

for one simple reason - fewer Wars

marc
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Supply-side economics is sometimes referred to as "trickle down" economics. The idea behind it is that by increasing the amount of capital controlled by the wealthy class you can benefit all classes, including the middle class. In practice, however, supply-side economics produced self-reinforcing transfers of capital from the middle class to the wealthy class, deficits, and cost shifting, all of which proved damaging to the middle class.

That paragraph proves you don't know what you are talking about.

On Ignore!!

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