the neocons are currently sitting on the most ambitious socialist project america has ever seen, the NAU and the i.d. cards system, so technically it's already been allowed with not a word uttered by both the mainstream newoise and your ilk. i am with you though that hilary may well sell off the country for scraps with much more enthusiasm...infact i am confident she would be guaranteed enemy number one of sovereignty, civil liberties and above all the middle class. oh, and yeah, a massive staged event like a dirty bomb going off in a couple of major cities under her presidency is a real possibility also.
Hillary Clinton "1984"
- Thread starter Maverick74
- Start date
the neocons are currently sitting on the most ambitious socialist project america has ever seen, the NAU and the i.d. cards system, so technically it's already been allowed with not a word uttered by both the mainstream newoise and your ilk. i am with you though that hilary may well sell off the country for scraps with much more enthusiasm...infact i am confident she would be guaranteed enemy number one of sovereignty, civil liberties and above all the middle class. oh, and yeah, a massive staged event like a dirty bomb going off in a couple of major cities under her presidency is a real possibility also.
Quote from murray t turtle:
===============
Mr Romney has several other big problems;
CBN[Christian broadcasting Network] caught him making at best misleading statements about hunting, in a shallow attempt to get NRA approval [National Rifle Association]
Reasons like that caused mr Cohen who is a somewhat left leaning writer for IBD[Investors Business Daily] to write if Romney were a coin, he would be rejejected as counterfeit
I actually think that most people don't really even care anymore. their isn't nearly as much distain for mormons as there used to be.
Romney is actually very liberal for a mormon anyway. If he doesn't win the primary it will likely be because he leans Democrat on too many issues. I personally think the best race in 2008 would be Romney vs. Obama. I wouldn't be disappointed with either of them. In fact the two are quite similar in many respects. Both are moderate by their party's standards.
Anyway, last I heard (a few days ago) Romney is the favorite for the GOP. We'll see, that is different depending on which poll comes out anyway. Think of it this way though. Romney & Obama both have an incredible ability to raise funding and mass support for multiple reasons. McCain is losing favor, Rudy G. hasn't ever really had a shot in a national arena, Hillary is self destructing, Edwards could probably make a pretty good run but Obama is still stronger.
Obama's biggest problem is that black support is low because he ahs too much white support. I guess having too much white support means that balcks can't trust him or something. Whatever...
Romney's biggest problem is that he's been forced to comprimise to get things done in a democratic state. This equates to flip-flopping in a post John Kerry election, although if you look closely most of the supposed flip-flopping was insignificant.
Obama has the most liberal voting record in the US Senate. He is far from moderate. Not even remotely close to moderate.
That might be true but he's running as a moderate when compared to Hillary. I hear him frequently being referred to as being a moderate voice.
No way. Here is a good litmus test. Look at which 527 groups support which candidates. The far left has completely shunned Hillary, they want no part of her. The anti-war contingent of the left is shouting Hillary down everywhere she goes led by Cindy Sheehan. Meanwhile, Obama is the darling of the far, far left 527 groups ala moveon.org and America Coming Together (ACT). Hillary is pretty much a moderate on most issues and very hawkish on foreign policy.
Obama having a moderate voice is very different then actually governing as a moderate. A man's actions speak louder then his words and that is where Obama is in trouble. He cannot run from his Senate record. There are a lot of people that hate Bush in this country, but they are not all far left moonbats. There are many Reagan democrats, conservative democrats, and moderate center left democrats that will not go near Obama because of his voting record.
Everyone says they hate Hillary and she is the anti-christ, but let's see what people actually do in the privacy of the voting booth. No one will admit they voted for her, but this country will elect her as the next President of the United States.
I don't think that the Democrats have found their voice yet, which makes this election wide open so far. What you say about Hillary is correct, but you underestimate the fact that most people don't like her or trust her. Her support so far is just like venting against Bush, that's all (imo). It's the opposite for Obama, but, I agree, he's too far left. If either of them gets the nomination (which is what the Republicans hope) the White House stays in the hands of the Republicans. Are the Dems so stupid? I don't think so. Therefore, barring any new entries, look at Edwards as the next nominee, perhaps teaming up with Biden.