Higher Minimum Wage Coming Soon

Quote from ByLoSellHi:

If you look at Craigslist, there are all kinds of hard working people that are experts in their fields, and will work for you or do specific jobs for far less than market prices.

I just hired a guy who worked at a BMW/VW dealer for 9 years, and is BMW certified, to do a 60,000 mile service to a 5 Series.

He changed and flushed the coolant, changed radiator hoses, one of the belts, changed the read differential fluid, flushed and changed the brake fluid, checked the spark plugs though he said they were fine (as they had been changed at 40,000 miles), changed the oil and oil filter, and changed the transmission oil.

I supplied all the materials and fluids. He charged $175 and gave me a signed receipt. I watched him do all the work, which he did properly, at a shop he is renting for a nominal sum. His small shop is fully equipped with tons of tools. He didn't have a hydraulic lift, but used jack stands, and told me he has access to a lift a transmission shop nearby for serious repairs.

If I had this done at a BMW dealer, it would have cost me $800 to $1,000.

He still will profit (it took him 2 1/2 hours, so he made $70 gross per hour but didn't have to buy the fluids or materials, which cost me about $92), I still got the work done by a certified BMW mechanic, and all labor and materials cost me $267.
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Sheesh! The local Audi dealer charges $175/hr for labor.
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

Sheesh! The local Audi dealer charges $175/hr for labor.
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I know.

The great part is that even if my car was still under warranty, I could take it to this guy, and there'd be no problem.

I know because I called BMW to check his status out and they affirmed he was BMW certified, and that he had just attended their latest program for technicians about a year ago.

Watch consumers and providers bypass any business with high overhead.

When times get tough, people get smarter and more aggressive.
 
Quote from Big Money:

If you ran a restaurant where you were used to paying someone 2.20 to 2.50 per hour or whatever and they made the rest in unclaimed (and untaxed) tips and now you have to triple your wage cost to the 7.25 minimum, I am sure you can see how that is bad for the restaurant owner.
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What are you talking about? The minimum wage for tipped employees is not going from $2.13 to $7.25. You’re blatantly wrong, stop trying to deceive people.
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

BULLSHIT! Grandpa's Wisdom... "Make something of yourself. The world doesn't owe you a living".

Everybody is "entitled" to EXACTLY WHAT THEY EARN... NOTHING MORE. Produce enough to support yourself or starve to death. The world would be better off without social parasites.

Libtard politicos may grant benefits to many in exchange for their vote, but that doesn't mean they DESERVE it for simply being alive.
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How did you get that stick shoved so far up your ass? First off, Grandpa got paid a decent wage to do low skill maual labor, people today don’t. He also didn’t have to compete with Mexican’s for jobs and his job didn’t get outsourced to China.

I mean I would agree with you if you were talking about lazy people who refuse to work and are leeches on society, but what’s with the bashing of people who work but who’s job doesn’t pay them hardly enough to live on? Why is it wrong for somebody to break into another person’s house and steal from them, but it is perfectly ok for employers to blatantly not pay something even close to a decent wage? Isn’t that stealing too? Of course everybody here is gonna talk about all this supply/demand of labor crap and what skills deserve what pay, but we all know that’s crap. You know it when you see it. A lot of employers steal from employees by not paying their worth and everybody knows it.
 
I'm glad you bought that point up.

I was once at Burger King and getting a whopper, which is my one fast food achilles heel, and older teens in the car ahead of me were making fun of the woman working the drive thru window.

I got out of my car, went up to theirs, and asked them what their problem was as I leaned inside of their car. I told them that the person they were making fun of was an honest working person, and if they wanted to go make fun of someone, to go and find a criminal who stole and cheated people.

Three employees literally applauded as these teenagers sat their with their mouths dropped open.

When they left, and my car pulled up to the window, the employees had stuffed my order with a complimentary large coke, an extra whopper and fries. I left a $5 tip and told them to keep on keepin' on.
 
How did you get that stick shoved so far up your ass? First off, Grandpa got paid a decent wage to do low skill maual labor, people today don’t.

It's not Grandpa's world anymore is it?
And we don't have to work the land anymore do we?
Also we don't hunt anymore do we?
So maybe you need to get that stick shoved up in your ass to get sense of reality.
 
Quote from ByLoSellHi:

I'm glad you bought that point up.

I was once at Burger King and getting a whopper, which is my one fast food achilles heel, and older teens in the car ahead of me were making fun of the woman working the drive thru window.

I got out of my car, went up to theirs, and asked them what their problem was as I leaned inside of their car. I told them that the person they were making fun of was an honest working person, and if they wanted to go make fun of someone, to go and find a criminal who stole and cheated people.

Three employees literally applauded as these teenagers sat their with their mouths dropped open.

When they left, and my car pulled up to the window, the employees had stuffed my order with a complimentary large coke, an extra whopper and fries. I left a $5 tip and told them to keep on keepin' on.
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I think you watch too many movies.
 
Quote from PragmaticIdeals:

Nice strawman.

I never stated that unions are a necessarily positive force; in fact I am personally outraged at the action various unions have taken at the behest of unwitting employers.

That said, it is delusional to fail to see the basic economics underpinning the forces guiding employers to take advantage of an excess and DESPERATE supply of labour when there is economic recession.

In the 20's, masses of farmers and their families forced into bankruptcy were subjected to various lines of alienation and subjugation by the well-to-do because the only option available besides working for pennies-per-day was to starve.

Sure, you could argue that forcing a minimum wage would put the businesses out of business or be forced to fire people, but such an argument is naive to the basic micro-economics underlying monopoly/oligopoly market structures.

When employers have dominant market position over the labourers, the situation is ripe for profit-maximizing, welfare-reducing behaviour. When the only alternative for labourers is to starve to death, the situation becomes riper still.

When Goldman Sachs "bankers" are making record bonuses, and CEO's are still making millions of dollars, society has the fundamental duty to ensure the survival and health of every single human being.
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Well, whats good for the goose is good for the gander. So you wouldn't have any problem with employers going to areas with cheaper labor, would you? You know, taking into account the micro-economics and all.


Btw, where do you teach? :D
 
Quote from ByLoSellHi:

If you look at Craigslist, there are all kinds of hard working people that are experts in their fields, and will work for you or do specific jobs for far less than market prices.
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Very true. In the past few weeks I've talked with heads of two IT departments with large co's Both said they were able to get senior programmers for about 1/2 to 2/3 the going rate last year.
 
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