High LDL Cholesterol Is Not A Health 'Problem' & Other Facts

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I will say this...Nearly EVERY elderly person I know who was diagnosed with high cholest. went on medication that was very expensive for 5-10 years....and in almsot EVERY case they still had to get the artery blown out and a stent put in .....makes you wonder if it would be cheaper to just have the balloon in the heart and a stent at 50???
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Not surprising, they are very sick people.

Statins are not a cure-all but if you won't stop eating that are killing you ..

BEEF, PORK, HAM, :eek:
 
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"Results: For every 10-g/d increase in saturated fat intake, IMT was 0.03 mm higher (P = 0.01) after multivariate adjustment. A 1-g/d higher intake of trans fat was associated with a 0.03-mm higher IMT (P = 0.02) after multivariate adjustment. The ratio of polyunsaturated to saturated fat (P:S) was inversely associated with IMT after multivariate adjustment (change in IMT: –0.06 mm; P < 0.01). Saturated and trans fat intakes were independently associated with IMT thickness (change in IMT: 0.03 mm; P < 0.01 and 0.02, respectively; P for interaction = 0.01). Polyunsaturated, monounsaturated, cholesterol, and total fat intakes were unrelated to IMT. The relation between saturated fat intake and IMT strengthened (&#946; = 0.0066, P < 0.001) in persons who never or rarely consumed alcohol as compared with moderate or heavy drinkers (&#946; = 0.0001, P = 0.79, P for interaction = 0.01)."

Interrelation of saturated fat, trans fat, alcohol intake, and subclinical atherosclerosis1,2,3
Anwar T Merchant, Linda E Kelemen, Lawrence de Koning, Eva Lonn, Vlad Vuksan, Ruby Jacobs, Bonnie Davis, Koon K Teo, Salim Yusuf, Sonia S Anand for the SHARE and SHARE-AP investigators

1 From the Population Health Research Institute, Hamilton, Canada (ATM, LdK, EL, RJ, BD, KKT, SY, and SSA); McMaster University, Hamilton, Canada (ATM, LdK, KKT, SY, and SSA); Hamilton Health Sciences, Hamilton, Canada (EL, KKT, SY, and SSA); the Alberta Cancer Board, Calgary, Canada (LEK); the University of Toronto, Toronto, Canada (VV); and Six Nations Health Services, Ohsweken, Canada (RJ and BD)

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/87/1/168



Dietary saturated and trans fat increase LDL and total cholesterol. For you to make such a bold statement of no connection between cholesterol and heart disease and that it's all a conspiracy by medical community and pharms is ludicrous and reckless reasoning.

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http://trusted.md/blog/vreni_gurd/2007/04/13/high_cholesterol_does_not_cause_heart_disease

I think scientists question not that fats raise cholesterol, but if cholesterol that is high really causes heart disease.
So killthesunshine, yes fats raise cholesterol, but is high cholesteral the cause of heart disease? And because so much money is made with the premise of cholesteral cause heart disease, it is hard for other scientist who see something different to be heard.
 
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http://trusted.md/blog/vreni_gurd/2007/04/13/high_cholesterol_does_not_cause_heart_disease

I think scientists question not that fats raise cholesterol, but if cholesterol that is high really causes heart disease.
So killthesunshine, yes fats raise cholesterol, but is high cholesteral the cause of heart disease? And because so much money is made with the premise of cholesteral cause heart disease, it is hard for other scientist who see something different to be heard.
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oh i hear them but what do they have to say to this..

For every 10-gram per day increase in saturated fat intake, IMT was 0.03 mm higher
 
The medical establishment is clueless and greedy. Arteries first dry out, then crack , then get patched with cholesterol and calcium. The artery feeding the heart gets flexed every time the heart beats so it cracks and gets repaired earlier in life, hence the heart attack is the first major problem evidenced by a system wide condition. Vitamin C, assuming your body works ok, causes the generation of Hyaluronic Acid and whatnot. HA keeps your arteries moist and flexible so they don't crack in the first frigging place. Take a time released Vitamin C and reduce your risk of heart attack. If your body does not produce HA properly, and that is my condition, well, you buy the stuff and eat some once a day.. no cracks, no patches, no heart attacks, no meds... a guy in Japan was 121 years old and was up and around and taking care of himself right up to the end, researchers found that in his area they eat plants that provide Hyaluronic Acid. There were lots of people in their 80's and 90's that were maintaining their own farms... try that after decades of eating the American Diet, ain't gonna happen baby. I'm 64 yo, blood pressure 115 over 75, resting heart rate about 65 and I'm taking no meds at all except for the dozen or so I get from the health food store... waiting around for the Medical establishment to fix your health is silly, the greedy bastards won't do it unless they can line their pockets and good medicine is nearly free so they provide the bad stuff...
 
I'm not a big fan of milk or drugs, but the bit about not eating wheat or soy is ridiculous.
And I don't care what kind of science is presented, it's still ridiculous.
 
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