High frequency traders literally printing money!!! LITERALLY PRINTING MONEY!!!!

Quote from bevo96:

This is one of the most uninformed, idiotic statments I have ever read. Flash orders no longer exist anywhere except Direct Edge and the buy side traders choose to use them with hopes of price improvement. HFT strategies can put the picture together and hit the button faster than a manual guy. Its not like they have a direct feed showing them the buy side order flow before it hits the market.

If you want to talk about front running, lets talk about what used to happen in the pits at the Merc and BOT as well as on the floor of the NYSE.
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Flash trading was blatant frontrunning.

The old "gap and print" from the floor specialist was criminal.

Both systems were flat out stealing.
 
Quote from dafugginman:

in the 1987 crash, specialists and market makers refused to answer their phones and walked away,
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this goes on everyday in the OTC market. you call and try to get a quote. they ask buy or sell? or say we'll get back the trader is away from his desk.
 
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Long term INVESTORS don't give a shit about the spread.

If they buy GE and pay an extra 1/8 for it , and hold it for months or years, do you really think it matters?

Spreads are important only for TRADERS.

If you don't know this, you're not very bright. Even if you do know this , you may not be very bright, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

HFT is nothing more than what all proprietary traders have done for decades.


They front run the flow.
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Paste that on the top of your pin heads apologists, no one is buying your BS.
 
Quote from rosy2:

this goes on everyday in the OTC market. you call and try to get a quote. they ask buy or sell? or say we'll get back the trader is away from his desk.
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What kind of imbecile would answer that question?
 
from my understanding HFT is they have earlier access to the order, so they know the order before it reaches to exchange and broadcast to other networks. Of course it is all in milli seconds, so today's computer can do it.
 
Quote from MoreYummy:

from my understanding HFT is they have earlier access to the order, so they know the order before it reaches to exchange and broadcast to other networks. Of course it is all in milli seconds, so today's computer can do it.
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This is why they are printing money and not taking any losses, they are front running, its guaranteed free fucking money no matter what.
 
Funny that when HFT walked away, there was no bid in the market down to 0.01 on some stocks. Like I've said before in a debt-based economy there's almost no such thing as fundamentals.
 
what was the name of the movie that highlighted the stockmarket implosion as the begining of anarchy and ww3?
came out in the late 80's or early 90's.
 
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Long term INVESTORS don't give a shit about the spread.

If they buy GE and pay an extra 1/8 for it , and hold it for months or years, do you really think it matters?

Spreads are important only for TRADERS.

If you don't know this, you're not very bright. Even if you do know this , you may not be very bright, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

HFT is nothing more than what all proprietary traders have done for decades.


They front run the flow.
They front run the flow.
They front run the flow.
They front run the flow.
They front run the flow.
They front run the flow.
They front run the flow.
They front run the flow.
They front run the flow.
They front run the flow.
They front run the flow.
They front run the flow.


Paste that on the top of your pin heads apologists, no one is buying your BS.
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BINGO!!! they sniff the flow and the discrepancies in pricing in different markets trading the same thing, and pull the trigger, faster than a team of 5 guys trading the same size. That's whyso many go automated (or did you know that already). It's an arbitrage play.. What's front running about that?
Sounds like someone lost money last week.. Actually to be honest, the OP doesn't sound like he trades at all (at least not with any size or insight to the markets) i.e. systems, deeper levels, pools of access etc.. Maybe I'm mistaken but, if so, I have trouble understanding why you wouldn't get how it is, accept it and move on...
 
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