HFT vs Small Traders

Quote from Bob111:

where have you been? we been talking about problems with HFT in stocks and waay to many market centers\ECN's\dark pools for years..
today it is really hard or even impossible to get into a winning trade on low\medium volume stocks. i'm talking about 100K shares average and above...below-fucking forget it...you won't get anything regardless. on low volume stocks i can pick winners every single day,all day long-no fill.that's issue #1 for me. i keep saying this for years:my fill rates are falling every single day. #2-today it is a lot harder to exit with decent size position. there is no real bids\offers. no real volume. it is a joke,when you trying to sell 1000 shares at bid,where buyer posting 10000 shares to buy and you are able to sell only 100, then bid will move 1-3-5 cents lower,leaving you with partial fill. today i'm losing a lot more money during the exit than 2-3 years ago..subpenny trades..is it good for retail,if one can post bid 0.000000001 cent better than you and get price priority? why they can do this and rest of the public can't?
what else do you need? me? i don't need any proof. i see and feel the pain of this HFT business EVERY SINGLE DAY.


Bob, aren't low volume stocks supposed to be HFT free ? If you find high volume stocks more profitable, aren't you using HFT beneficially ? ??
 
Small traders use stop order to day trade. Most HFTs are stop hunters. Of course, small traders need to use stop because they are under capitalized. Which another reason why more than 90% of small traders lose. They don't have capital.

I am overdue to start a thread on why should not be placing stop and what capital should be used. Coming soon
 
i don't now,how hard for many to understand simple stat fact: easy to predict where the price is going to go=hard to get filled. no problem with fill=much harder to predict further price movement.
i would rather pick up dollar here and there all day long,than sit and scratch my head about SP futures next price movement..those movements are typically small and require big ass margin=big ass risk of complete without..get it? have you seen the broker statement i post? can you make same steady 100% return without ANY fucking draw down trading SP500 futures?
looks like no more questions about impact of HFT on retail trader? the bogeyman is real and will be around...quote stuffing..is another one..what is the practical purpose of placing and canceling 20000 orders per second? can i do this? fuck no..my broker will kick me out in very same day..
 
another reason why i'm not trading you damn futures is that this particular system is market neutral and aimed to maintain neutrality trough the day. i trade what i like,the way i like. and i still remember 9/11
 
Quote from emg:

if trading is easy, can u explain why more than 90% of small traders lose in a 'Specutacular Fashion?"

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/03/business/la-fi-amateur-currency-trading-20110403

Tell that to the small traders. Not me.

are retarded or what? where did i said that trading is easy? where did you see,that i fit into your definition of small trader? i use to be like them,but i did spend a LOT of time to educate myself..and i'm not talking about days..i'm talking about YEARS of education and market observations..1 year in computer class alone,studying programming..
once again damit..it's possible,but you right-not on the level you describe. one have to evolve,in order to became successful in trading. this (once again) applies to ANY fucking field,not only trading.
my friend is in HVAC business. great profit margins. can anyone do this without specific background in the field? fuck no..why? cause you don't know shit about shit about it. that would be your 90% of general population,who maybe don't mind to have an extra income installing AC,but they CAN"T DO THAT. you must learn and have passion for it,if you want to be successful. how fucking hard to understand this simple fact?

i don't have to tell anything to anyone..they lose-i win..SEC is retarded,by implementing PDT rules and all that shit..the more wanna be "traders" on market=more profits for "pros" or experienced traders..

i said this long time ago about forex-too many variables,factors,too much leverage..same shit i've been mention many times in prev. posts..it doen't mean that one can't make money on forex..there is a nice steady downtrend in dollar..for example..take your own 100K and place you bet either way..on daily time frame..not fucking tick charts..and without any margin. it should take you a while,before you will blew them up..
 
Quote from Bob111:



i don't have to tell anything to anyone

the reason why u don't have to tell anything to anyone because you are part of the 90% losers. Reread your posts.

Good luck on your trading

Im out
 
Quote from emg:

the reason why u don't have to tell anything to anyone because you are part of the 90% losers. Reread your posts.

Good luck on your trading

Im out

dude..for one more time-have you seen that statement of one of my accounts? the one i posted here long time ago and keep refering to? just say yes or no. 100% in less than 10 months in daytrading and i'm in 90% of the losers? i'm having a hard time understand your logic pal..
 
here..i attached it for you..i know your next step-you gonna say same shit like everybody else did before you-it's impossible, it's altered,photo shopped, i would accept only audited statement....yeah yeah yeah..

tell you more,if you not convinced...there is an article about me in WJS in 2005 or 06, i don't remember...about how one guy,who use to work in a garage now trading stocks from his home..using guess what? his own home made software..yes,what they now call algo trading..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ea7Zas1qMc&feature=related

Toodooloo mother fucker :p
 

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