HFT vs Small Traders

[Lights]

I'd say 10% of HFT's make. HFT's were what daytraders were to the investment community 15 years ago. In the beginning it's free money. At some point their strategies get diluted and self cannibalize when everyone enters that game.

The markets reflect the times. The wealthy are becoming a smaller fraction of the overall population.

Quote from Laissez Faire:

Wrong.

More than 90% of HFT wins in a "Spectacular Fashion." They just win!!

EMG has some valid points on why small traders have the odds stacked against them, but like NoDoji, I never understood how HFT directly competes with retail traders?

If you go for bigger swings intraday, how is the HFTs providing any threats to you?

I`ve heard it said that HTFs may have changed the path, but not the destination. That makes a lot of sense to me.

 

[Bob111]

Quote from kentraderstar:

Sure. It is easier for anybody to say in public one can make $30K per day. But, they will never tell you their big loss because of PRIDE. If they do, they will tell you small loss just to keep their pride going.

Keep sim trading buddy. "Mother Fucker" LMAO

for all idiots,trolls and other "infidels"....same account expanded little more..please note,that if you familiar with IB structure(which i doubt,i actually doubt that you ever trade anything) you should know, that paper trading accounts starts from letter "D". not "U"..how many high school graduates have you seen,that own LLC's? :
you can go head and masturbate on this statement,screaming LMAO mother fucker,but you know, who got the last laugh and that "graduation present"

 

[NoDoji]

Quote from stock777:

Everyone here on et is a winner.

No one ever posts how.

Here is one of many "hows" I've posted on ET. This one is designed for consistently losing traders who believe stop hunters are out to get them and it's all because of HFT:

1. You feel a trade coming on.

2. You can't wait any longer. You figure out where your stop loss will go and you're ready to buy or sell.

3. DO NOT TRADE! If you were planning to sell and place a protective buy stop, place a limit order to sell at the buy stop price; if you were planning to buy and place a protective sell stop, place a limit order to buy at the sell stop price.

4. Once your order is lifted, place a stop loss the same distance away from your entry price as your initial stop loss was going to be.

It's important that you are a consistent loser for this tactic to work to your advantage. If this tactic turns you into a consistently profitable trader, your brain patterns will change and you are at great risk for losing your edge

 

[Bob111]

+1 NoDoji.

Learning an edge in trading is easy. Learning how to trade without your big brain getting in the way is the "99% hard" part of it.

this is so true..

 

[kentraderstar]

Quote from Bob111:

for all idiots,trolls and other "infidels"....same account expanded little more..please note,that if you familiar with IB structure(which i doubt,i actually doubt that you ever trade anything) you should know, that paper trading accounts starts from letter "D". not "U"..how many high school graduates have you seen,that own LLC's? :
you can go head and masturbate on this statement,screaming LMAO mother fucker,but you know, who got the last laugh and that "graduation present"

Once again, you are showing your sim account. Why don't you admit in trading sim. It won't hurt ya. Is it because of PRIDE??? LMAO!!!

 

[kentraderstar]

Quote from NoDoji:

Here is one of many "hows" I've posted on ET. This one is designed for consistently losing traders who believe stop hunters are out to get them and it's all because of HFT:

1. You feel a trade coming on.

2. You can't wait any longer. You figure out where your stop loss will go and you're ready to buy or sell.

3. DO NOT TRADE! If you were planning to sell and place a protective buy stop, place a limit order to sell at the buy stop price; if you were planning to buy and place a protective sell stop, place a limit order to buy at the sell stop price.

4. Once your order is lifted, place a stop loss the same distance away from your entry price as your initial stop loss was going to be.

It's important that you are a consistent loser for this tactic to work to your advantage. If this tactic turns you into a consistently profitable trader, your brain patterns will change and you are at great risk for losing your edge

Because you do not call your trades in advanced, you lose money in crude and you lose money in es. You do not post your stocks trades. How can we all believe ya?

Also, of all your trading advices and many thank you for them, but are still losing. What make you think advices works?

 

[Bob111]

Quote from kentraderstar:

Once again, you are showing your sim account. Why don't you admit in trading sim. It won't hurt ya. Is it because of PRIDE??? LMAO!!!

for 1001 time-give me a reasonable explanation..at least one..what make you think it's a sim? what exactly make you think that it's a sim?
make me feel that i'm trying to argue with little baby,who keep repeating same thing..it's a sim..
daytrading is impossible...
possible..
show me the proof
here..
it's a sim
want a bet it's not?
it's a sim
why?
it's a sim
can you explain why do you think it's a sim?
it's a sim..
the account letters are different for real and paper accounts
it's a sim..


you are the fucking baby here,acting childish..
hehe.. maybe you don't like that some russian, from middle of siberia, can do what you can't? make me double proud of myself..fuck yeah..suck my smelly hairy russian balls..
suck it up pal..

 

[kentraderstar]

Quote from Bob111:



you are the fucking baby here,acting childish..
hehe.. maybe you don't like that some russian, from middle of siberia, can do what you can't? make me double proud of myself..fuck yeah..suck my smelly hairy russian balls..
suck it up pal..

I'm laughing at you for pretending to be a guru. There is no doubt in my mind a profitable real trader willing to post statement in ET. "Mother Fucker" LMAO

 

[Bob111]

Quote from kentraderstar:

I'm laughing at you for pretending to be a guru. There is no doubt in my mind a profitable real trader willing to post statement in ET. "Mother Fucker" LMAO

where did you see word guru here? for 10001 time-all i'm trying to say-it is possible to make the money daytrading. that's all. get this trough your empty little head..since it's seems to me that you having some problem reading and understanding my posts,let me repeat this one more time once again for you: all i'm trying to say and show it to you that it's possible to be profitable in daytrading for small guy. but this field is obviously not for you,since you having hard time accepting obvious facts or provide even one reason why one would post or trade sim account for this long. good bye and good luck to you in your LMAO journey. sleep well in your little dream world,where everyone is losing the money trading or trading profitably is for sims only. i'm tired of arguing with idiot,who's only argument is it's a sim..

 

[guy990opl]

Daytrading is a pipedream.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=194342&highlight=pipedream