HFT Killing Retail Traders in ES Futures - NY Times Today

Quote from startraitor:

So they have taken the place of the floor 10-20 years ago. It was a disruptive move but still the same game.
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no kidding, they use to write these same articles back in the 70's

but back then they were getting an eighth, maybe a quarter

now it's just a penny or less

things have gotten faster, but nothing has changed
 
For a number of reasons I'm back to futures (stock index and testing waters in CL)... Didn't find SIF's to be any harder than back in 2006, when I traded them last time. :)
 
Quote from cornixforex:

For a number of reasons I'm back to futures (stock index and testing waters in CL)... Didn't find SIF's to be any harder than back in 2006, when I traded them last time. :)
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Like the man said, "Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treads the field."
 
Quote from oldtime:

Like the man said, "Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treads the field."
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What does it mean? English is not my 1st language. :)
 
Wow, you pay that much! You have to be a whore, I am. I still think I pay too much and no where near that.

Quote from NoDoji:

My broker made about $5.00 a contract against me today, but I made about $70.00 a contract in exchange for those fees. Why are the HFT's not killing me?
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Quote from startraitor:

So they have taken the place of the floor 10-20 years ago. It was a disruptive move but still the same game.
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+1. Same games, but so accurate, old floor traders have been seen to blush in admiration.
 
Quote from startraitor:

Wow, you pay that much! You have to be a whore, I am. I still think I pay too much and no where near that.
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No, I misspoke; I pay close to 5.00/RT, only 2.30/contract
 
Quote from cornixforex:

For a number of reasons I'm back to futures (stock index and testing waters in CL)...
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When you told me you're going to trade CL my first thought was, I hope he doesn't ask me how I trade it. :p :p :p
 
Here is an interesting article:



High-Frequency Traders Seen Profiting at Small-Firm Expense



http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...-seen-profiting-at-small-firm-expense-1-.html




best quote from the article:

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Higher Education is the key to become a successful trader. Higher Education will allow u to enter in the house



Higher Education!
 
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