HFT/Algo end in sight?

newtricks · Sep 26, 2011

Quote from Dogfish:

With regards to the last link, this is such an issue when running a lease line halfway round the world, more and more useless data clogging it up. There's now 100 times more data sent down the lines over economic releases than there was in 2007 but the moves and volume traded are no larger

I would guess the volume in eurex bonds is less,index futures maybe more

newtricks · Sep 26, 2011

Quote from traderslair:

If HFT goes away it could be that my system isn't working anymore.

That's bad luck then.

emg · Oct 11, 2011

HFT is the new era of trading. Don't u think it is time to go back to school and get a math and computer science degrees?

R. Raskolnikov · Oct 11, 2011

Take a step back from HFT'ers and you can compete in the mkts just fine. If you are trying to scalp and compete that way, fuggetaboutit

Quote from emg:

HFT is the new era of trading. Don't u think it is time to go back to school and get a math and computer science degrees?

Tsing Tao · Oct 11, 2011

http://www.nanex.net/Research/RegNMSRecinded/RegNMSRecinded.html

newtricks · Oct 14, 2011

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...odity-derivatives-high-frequency-traders.html

"The EU also plans to list specific examples of trading strategies that should be banned and punished by regulators as market manipulation."

That was my favourite bit

syswizard · Oct 15, 2011

Quote from traderslair:

I love HFT.

I trade everyday and pay all my bills of my trading and much more. If HFT goes away it could be that my system isn't working anymore.

I want HFT to stay!

So do I. As long as they are able to keep it honest and within the trading limits set by the exchanges, it should stay.
HFT increases liquidity....and that's a good thing.
Also, it gives outsourced American programmers something to do !

newtricks · Oct 16, 2011

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...wants-law-change-to-target-rogue-bankers.html

Aimed at the HFT/Algo cheats as well as the usual I'm thinking.

I'm wondering if faced with some porridge they will still think that quote stuffing/flipping/entering & pulling hundreds of thousands of lots yet never completing an order and the rest of the shitty techniques they employ will be worth it.

I think not as they are cowards at heart.

The end of these scumbags is really now upon us.

jd7419 · Oct 16, 2011

Quote from newtricks:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...wants-law-change-to-target-rogue-bankers.html

Aimed at the HFT/Algo cheats as well as the usual I'm thinking.

I'm wondering if faced with some porridge they will still think that quote stuffing/flipping/entering & pulling hundreds of thousands of lots yet never completing an order and the rest of the shitty techniques they employ will be worth it.

I think not as they are cowards at heart.

The end of these scumbags is really now upon us.

Wish you were right, but imo not a chance. I think the end of all non hft traders is upon us. The most interesting time, the point of no return will be when only hft shops are left. What will they do when they kill off every last piece of prey from these markets?

ElectricSavant · Oct 16, 2011

In a primitive way, I can agree with this. It seems that the only people that make money in trading are the people on the inside or in the infrastructure. Greed has destroyed capitalism.

ES

Quote from jd7419:

Wish you were right, but imo not a chance. I think the end of all non hft traders is upon us. The most interesting time, the point of no return will be when only hft shops are left. What will they do when they kill off every last piece of prey from these markets?