Hey Democrats, you want wage increases? How about applying the principles of free market economics.

[Ricter]

Hey republicans, you want clean water? How about apply the principles of free market economics?

 

[piezoe]

its odd how lefties and liberals throughout the years attempt to deny their own beliefs.
We all want more efficient govt. I would like the Federal govt much smaller, far more efficient and for us to get some of our rights back.

You argued for Obamacare but they acted like it could be better.... then for years you liked to hide the real culprit and called it obomneycare.

You supported the IRS targeting conservatives probably a dozen times when the questions were asked by AAA or myself. Now you act like you don't understand.

Pretty soon you will deny you defend the Private Federal Reserve even though you recently admitted the regional fed banks were owned shareholders were the govt. .

But it is very much Obomneycare, and Obomneycare is very much Heritage Foundation care. How about giving credit where credit is due? What is to be gained by denying the truth?

 

[Tom B]

But it is very much Obomneycare, and Obomneycare is very much Heritage Foundation care. How about giving credit where credit is due? What is to be gained by denying the truth?

Except it is not the truth.

 

[jem]

Whether I think being gay or transgender is morally wrong is almost irrelevant to this discussion. In fact I happily laugh at the jokes about not depriving gays of the same "happiness" we all feel after 10 years of marriage. There is no doubt in my mind the 2% of the population that identifies itself has gay has every right to be an american that I have. Same with transgender people.

But, as far as people with a penis in women's bathrooms.... for the same reason I would not hire a male babysitter, I really don't want men dressed as women in the same bathrooms as my daughter (or my wife for that matter.) Not at schools. Not at the beach, not at camp grounds. Whether you wish to admit this or not... some men have criminal problems. Men are a far greater molestation risk than women. There is no compelling argument to the contrary. What you believe will always be inferior to child safety argument in my opinion.

So, that leaves the men's room or... the many rooms I now see as designated male/female - family rooms. Where one group or one person goes in at a time. I see them at amusement parks... and I saw one at my Church on Sunday.

That gives transgenders the same rights I have. We are all Americans. Special rights are not needed.

Just for the sake of argument, Jem. Let's say every one can choose there sexual preference and that choice has nothing to do with DNA, "would that be wrong in your opinion?" I guess my question is basically the same as asking whether you think it is wrong for a person to identify with a sex opposite to their biological sex, when there is no known gene causing them to do this.

Obviously I am not asking about gay people here, but transgender.

Let me assume you think it is wrong. Then my next question is, "Because you think it is wrong for a transgender person to identify with the opposite biological sex, would you then want, a transgender person in a dress and high heels and long hair and with a female voice, and appearing to at least a casual observer to be a female, to use the mens' restroom?

 

[piezoe]

Except it is not the truth.

How so?

 

[piezoe]

Whether I think being gay or transgender is morally wrong is almost irrelevant to this discussion. In fact I happily laugh at the jokes about not depriving gays of the same "happiness" we all feel after 10 years of marriage. There is no doubt in my mind the 2% of the population that identifies itself has gay has every right to be an american that I have. Same with transgender people.

But, as far as people with a penis in women's bathrooms.... for the same reason I would not hire a male babysitter, I really don't want men dressed as women in the same bathrooms as my daughter (or my wife for that matter.) Not at schools. Not at the beach, not at camp grounds. Whether you wish to admit this or not... some men have criminal problems. Men are a far greater molestation risk than women. There is no compelling argument to the contrary. What you believe will always be inferior to child safety argument in my opinion.

So, that leaves the men's room or... the many rooms I now see as designated male/female - family rooms. Where one group or one person goes in at a time. I see them at amusement parks... and I saw one at my Church on Sunday.

That gives transgenders the same rights I have. We are all Americans. Special rights are not needed.

You never answered my question. And I know why. It's because there is only one rational answer, and you can't bring yourself to be rational, because it would be an admission that your position is wrong.

 

[Ricter]

Legislative history of the ACA

 

[piezoe]

Legislative history of the ACA

What a great article. Thank you so much for turning it up. Will those who should read it, actually read it? I doubt it.

 

[Tom B]

Legislative history of the ACA

The first sentence in the link is false.

"The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act consists of a combination of measures to control healthcare costs, and an expansion of coverage through public and private insurance: broader Medicaid eligibility and Medicare coverage, and subsidized, regulated private insurance."

If there were cost measures in the bill, the ACA would have received some bi-partisan support. Cost savings measures like allowing insurance companies to sell across state lines, and medical tort reform are a couple that come to mind.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Just another way to kill off small business...

Only those small businesses whose business models absolutely require the exploitation of labor for their survival. In such instances, I say let the predator become the prey.