Here's what happened after i buy course from Scott Phillips

Here are a few pics from Scott's first sales video.

Laurent: "1) ...He is always looking for the next nugget"

Well. Yes. He found a nugget. Now he does not sell this amazing system anymore. He sell his time for 6 months so you can learn this "pure mechanical system that don't rely on amazing skill and concentration"

Laurent: "3) His integrity...."

Are Scott's claims below included in your definition of integrity?


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/ Prince Pit
 
Hello,
You can find me here. I have been on the institutional side multiple HFs, alternative side of big mutual funds for almost 2 decades.

I usually think it is better to watch punching games from afar, but here is some perspective

I know Scott personally. I even stayed at his place in Bangkok. Watching him trade futures at 5 am in his pyjamas in his kitchen on a Monday morning is something i cannot un-see. 3 things that stuck with me about him:
1) his relentless dedication to the craft. Most pros learn the first 2 years and press the repeat button for the next 10. He is always looking for the next nugget
2) His meticulous record keeping. I have literally never seen such a complete trading journal, ever. Most pros vaguely look at their stats. He dissects them and his mental state ad nauseam
3) His integrity. Yes, he was on high carbohydrates diet for a long time, courtesy of the Aussie penitentiary system. Funny, but i would trust him more than a lot of greedy pros on the institutional side...

First of all, Scott, kicking someone in his pride and joy is the wrong way to make friends. Ates is a rookie. Be gentle with white belts. They don't understand tough love. They take it personal. Colourful insults is a national pastime on trading floors, think "Full Metal Jacket" with brains.

Experience: it took me nearly a decade to be consistent. It took me another decade to shed unprofitable beliefs. Amateurs roll in thinking they will beat seasoned pros in 3 weeks. It takes time, dedication, humility. So, Ates, I understand how you feel, but your impatience is misplaced. You don't waltz in a dojo and criticise the sensei because you can't throw a mawashigeri after 3 weeks.

When you trade someone else's system, you explicitly adopt his method and implicitly his beliefs.

When pros see 75%, most of them think too good to be true, what about the tail risk? When there is statistical evidence it works, they think Kelly criterion and position sizing. Pros are process oriented. Amateurs are outcome driven.

Win rate of 75%: when amateurs see this, it feeds their "need to be right" complex and fragile ego. They take losses as personal and/or system failure. In reality, either they did something wrong (you don't improvise yourself a disciplined trader), or it is simply a losing streak. I think that what Scott was rudely trying to convey was that accepting to be wrong is the key to making money on the markets and a palatable marriage

As for the cost, $200+ is less than the cost of one trade gone wrong! The tuition fee of trading w/o a system is much higher. Ates, I am sorry it did not work out for you. Next time, work on your beliefs and educate yourself before buying a course.

Good luck Ates! And Scott, you are a respectful person on the mat. So don't unscrew people heads, sh!t on the swamp they have for brains and copiously wipe your money-maker with their faces next time -:)

lol what is this shit?
 
lol what is this shit?

"...So don't unscrew people heads, sh!t on the swamp they have for brains and copiously wipe your money-maker with their faces next time -"

That, my friend, is poetry. He's quoting Walt Whitman.


...and is that the bulls right leg, or is he utilizing foreshadowing by doin to the bear what he eventually did to Ates? ;)
 
I know Scott personally. I even stayed at his place in Bangkok. Watching him trade futures at 5 am in his pyjamas in his kitchen on a Monday morning is something i cannot un-see. 3 things that stuck with me about him:
1) his relentless dedication to the craft. Most pros learn the first 2 years and press the repeat button for the next 10. He is always looking for the next nugget
2) His meticulous record keeping. I have literally never seen such a complete trading journal, ever. Most pros vaguely look at their stats. He dissects them and his mental state ad nauseam
3) His integrity. Yes, he was on high carbohydrates diet for a long time, courtesy of the Aussie penitentiary system. Funny, but i would trust him more than a lot of greedy pros on the institutional side...

Regardless of whether or not these 3 things are true, they don't prove the effectiveness of the systems he's selling, or his competence (or lack thereof) as a trading teacher.
 
lol now journaling your Bollinger Bands losses is an edge. Dude can't open a brokerage account with the felonies other than some FX bucket shop. Laurent, please continue.
 
Below is Laurent Bernut's "free preview" of the course he's selling on Quantra. And yes, that's how it's formatted, like a monstrous Haiku:

If you're in the long-short business
learning to sell short is not a choice.
You see there are tons of market gurus
will tell you what to buy buy buy buy
buy, but people who have mastered the
craft of short selling a few far
in-between and very high in demand.
Good morning, my name is Laurent Bernut.
I've been in the alternative
investment space for
18 years now.
A couple of hedge funds
and at fidelity my mandate was
a dedicated short seller.
Every day I wake up within
an exposure -100%.
I had to
find the worst stocks in the worst bear
market on record, Japanese equities.
So I developed a methodology
that would see through the course.
People coming from
the long side, usually carry the belief
that good stocks are few and far between.
Now if you transpose that belief from
the long side on to the short side, very
soon you'll be hunting for unicorn
whales.
You'll be running around the
Arctic Circle looking for narwals.
This is not how the short side works.
The short side obeys its own laws
it has its own rules and this is
something we're going to be looking at.
The promise of the course,
please answer those four
questions take time to answer those four
questions.
Who would you be if you had a
stable robust method that tells you when
stocks have bottomed out and when they
picked up that would be the first one on
the slope when everybody is terminally
euphoric you'd be the first one out of
slope put the goggles on I'm gonna write
you down when the street is terminally
bearish strong selling everything bo-oh
it has bottomed, now time to take a trade.
Question number two who would you be if
you had more signals than you would ever
have capital to deploy day-in day-out
number three who would you be if you
know exactly how much risk you can
afford to take on any single trade.
Finally who would you be if
you have developed confidence that you
have developed a strategy that is robust
that you can trade, it won't work all the
time, it has a positive rate,
it won't work all the time it will work
over time you would be pulling that
trigger.
Now about the core structure,
people who short stocks that go down in
absolute are lagging indicators.
First
things first we need to restate given
time investment universe first as a
benchmark and in a single currency we're
going to be comparing apples with apples.
There'll be no valuation is purely price
based and very soon you get to see out
performers and underperformers long bull
short bear, make money on the Delta not
rocket science.
Let me guess the next
question regime definition.
How do you
know when and how those stoccks are
out performing or under performing.
How do you reclassify them in a
stable robust fashion?
So we'll be exploring several
methods classic moving average, breakout,
and a third one purely statistical floor
and ceiling.
By the end of part 1 you'll
you will be able to develop a screening
that will tell you day in day out all
the signals that you need to take, and
you'll be able to be re-classify.
In part
two we'll be moving on to strategy
definition, creation, back test,
optimization, if any money management.
One
thing about that, this is the short side
the environment does not cooperate.
You
want to test for robustness.
You see
people who always optimize for I want a
great sharpe, I want great performance.
Clearly do not understand robustness.
Robustness is something that survived,
this is where you build a confidence.
So you will be using metrics that
specifically will tell you
unapologetically how well your toy works.
Once we're done with that will optimize
for them and we'll be moving to money
management.
Another thing any strategy
is composed of two modules signal
money management money is made in a
money management module.
See tourists
routinely bet the family go broke,.
pros pin up the cows.
Now you might think
okay this course is nice but at the end
of the day I just want to do long only.
I just wanna buy stuff.
Well, I wanted to
gather feedback for the course so I
talked to ex-colleagues, and long-short
managers, mutual fund, and it's so appears
that a you just described my workflow
this is a course written by a
professional for professional.
If you buy
stocks at one point you will want to
sell them and you wanna buy stocks as
early as possible as soon as they bottom
out and you want to sell them at one
point when everybody is turning bullish.
So final note, warren buffett once
said price is what you pay value is what
you get.
At the moment that this video
is recorded I have no idea of how
much the course will sell for and
frankly it doesn't really matter,
but what I do want and what I
wanted from the first day I created of
course is to pack it with value.
I wanted
to create the course that I wish had ten
years ago so it has a philosophy, it has
a methodology and everything is
synthesized into source code.
I'll see you in the course.

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