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MZM + Credit = far more appropriate measure of money supply than you'd think. Both are on the ropes. America has been riding a 50-year-long credit wave that began to crash in early 2000's. That's the difference. Expansionary monetary policy has to outstrip credit destruction rates.

You'll have your inflation once credit begins flowing again, but it's a slow process. That's the point of the bailout...to free up bank balance sheets of illiquid, nonperforming assets and replace them with lots of performing, current assets. Once the banks are capitalized properly, they'll slowly relax credit standards and begin to lend again. They'll benefit from a steep yield curve and lever America to the gills once again. At this point, the Fed really has no other choice, this has been the economic model for decades now.

Once a crisis point is reached, implement automatic stabilizers...but leave them in place for extended periods. Do everything you can to help financial institutions capitalize themselves, and when they're in decent shape let them know that they had better start lending, b/c you're one year out from raising rates. Banks will rush to jam cheap capital down the throats of oblivious consumers while the profit margin is still very high, and from this...the next credit wave/economic upturn/house-flipping-party will begin. After Fed tightens to a point where the lending profit margin is slim, i.e. flatter yield curve & consumers unwilling to borrow at punitive rates, the banks will start to wind down lending operations, house flipping orgies will end, daytraders will perish, and Rick Santelli will shake his head with a sense of impending credit market doom as the Ted Spread rockets to the moon. Some type of panic will occur, but not before people, once again, begin wearing their wealth on their necks, wrists, and grillz. The panic will mark the apex of the next economic crest. At this point, you've got to watch credit supply and demand.

Rinse, lather, repeat.
Just wanna add something real quick!!

During the middle 90s trough the early 2000s we had the internet boom which was a breakthrough. It created new jobs, new companies, new technologies that averted any potential crisis.

This crisis should have started there, but since we had a genuine innovation there was another bull run which took care of the recession that was due.

If we cannot produce another breakthrough, be it something originally thought impossible (cold fusion comes to mind) we will have an enormous difficulty getting out of this crisis.
 
exactly we need a breaktrough... however as long as the market is only a manipulated puppet, it will not provide it...

Unleashed the market !
 
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Fact is only the ignorance of the American public gives the Dollar any value it is already devalued past any real chance of recovery.
BUT by all means SPEND, SPEND, SPEND! All I ask is a little more time to prepare and SAVE,SAVE,SAVE.
People starved in the Weimar Republic. It can happen here too.
I have to hit the rack. Thanks for the conversation. Chuck

buy and stock alcohol : rhum, whisky.
These will always be in demand. :D

Hyperinflation?
Depends... Let's say more workers are fired, and have to take jobs with lower wages ... Let's say, public sector workers are fired en mass ( teachers, police officers,...) ... Let's say people are scarrrrred and save like mad, only buy discount...
Then let's say, the banks tighten their credit criteria,... start refunding their borrowed money...

A lot of money printed BUT few of this money tickling down...
 
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buy and stock alcohol : rhum, whisky.
These will always be in demand. :D

Hyperinflation?
Depends... Let's say more workers are fired, and have to take jobs with lower wages ... Let's say, public sector workers are fired en mass ( teachers, police officers,...) ... Let's say people are scarrrrred and save like mad, only buy discount...
Then let's say, the banks tighten their credit criteria,... start refunding their borrowed money...

A lot of money printed BUT few of this money tickling down...

Ok.....so we have hyper-Stagflation?
Booze takes a lot of room to store but brewing beer?
 
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