Help deciding on trading platform

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Stamatti

Hi guys,

I'm in between esignal advanced GET, Ninja trader and Tradestation.

I'm posting because I'm really having a hard time cutting out the bullshit and deciding which is the best platform.

I was leaning towards esignal, but I can't stand their pitches disguised as seminars. It really makes me question their overall integrity, plus it is just insulting when someone is trying to close you non-stop for 3 days in a row.

Can you just reply with your honest 2 cents. What do you use? Why do you like it? Did you try something else before? Sort of thing...

Thanks in advance.
 
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Hi guys,

I'm in between esignal advanced GET, Ninja trader and Tradestation.

I'm posting because I'm really having a hard time cutting out the bullshit and deciding which is the best platform.

I was leaning towards esignal, but I can't stand their pitches disguised as seminars. It really makes me question their overall integrity, plus it is just insulting when someone is trying to close you non-stop for 3 days in a row.

Can you just reply with your honest 2 cents. What do you use? Why do you like it? Did you try something else before? Sort of thing...

Thanks in advance.
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You asked, so here are my two cents worth. :)

There is no perfect platform, just what is best for you. I've used all three of these and like them all. E-signal is a data provider, so you'll need to decide who you want to trade with and be sure that they link with e-signal. In the past I used MB Trading and found it to be good for my needs.

I've done a demo on Ninja and like it. Many traders are very happy with it. I suggest you do a free demo.

Currently, I've been using TS for the last five years. Overall, I'm very satisfied and it has been a good platform for my needs.

Bottom line, I think the three you are considering are fine. Do consider the demo on Ninja though.

GL
 
Stay away from tradestation! The charts and matrix always locks up. I have called tradestation and they don't care. This has been an issue for a week. I called to ask them to give me a commission rebate or something and they laughed. They seriously read me the agreement over the phone that states they aren't responsible for anything. Basically I said hey I wouldn't be calling and complaining if it were a data isuse from the CME or the internet was down but this is your servers and it's been ongoing for a week. They don't care. So Tradestation is the only Company in the free world that can charge you without providing a service. Rather ironic that they are a brokerage and their primary source of income seems to be the people they could care less about. Been trading for over a decade and Tradestation is by far the worst and most callous platform/brokerage I have ever dealt with. Even Refco was fair and didn't intentionally screw you. Tradestation financials - lower revenue, lower net income by almost half and a 24% reduction in # of trades as same time last year with an increase in employee compensation. Funny how poor customer service is viewable in financials.
 
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Stay away from tradestation! The charts and matrix always locks up. I have called tradestation and they don't care. This has been an issue for a week. I called to ask them to give me a commission rebate or something and they laughed. They seriously read me the agreement over the phone that states they aren't responsible for anything. Basically I said hey I wouldn't be calling and complaining if it were a data isuse from the CME or the internet was down but this is your servers and it's been ongoing for a week. They don't care. So Tradestation is the only Company in the free world that can charge you without providing a service. Rather ironic that they are a brokerage and their primary source of income seems to be the people they could care less about. Been trading for over a decade and Tradestation is by far the worst and most callous platform/brokerage I have ever dealt with. Even Refco was fair and didn't intentionally screw you. Tradestation financials - lower revenue, lower net income by almost half and a 24% reduction in # of trades as same time last year with an increase in employee compensation. Funny how poor customer service is viewable in financials.
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Interesting, I've never had that problem with TS, but would drop them if I did.

Curious, what platform are you considering using instead?
 
It depends, apart from the differences in the platforms themselves, in what you want to trade, your level of experience, etc.

I use NinjaTrader with Interactive Brokers and I'm happy overall. If you're only going to trade futures, though, you may want to consider some broker that provides a Zen-fire feed (since IB aggregates the Time & Sales and makes it useless - if you use that kind of thing, some people don't and don't care).

With TS, if I recall properly, you're stuck with them as brokers too. The community is massive, so you won't be alone if you're into programming, etc. Otherwise it seems a bit outdated, but you can't go too wrong with a proven thing.

IMHO and without meaning to offend anyone, eSignal is a ripoff for wannabe retail traders. Very expensive bells and whistles.

As some have suggested, I'd try the Ninja demo, then if you like it sign up for a month (to make sure you have no problems with the instruments/broker/whatever you want to trade with) and then buy the lifetime license (otherwise you'd find yourself thinking for years: if I'd got the lifetime license at the beginning, I would have already saved XXX $, but then, I've already spent so much that I don't want to pay for the license now :p )
 
Thank you for the feedback.

I'm giving both esignal and ninjatrader a trial run right now. I'll post again in a couple of weeks to let you know how it went.

Thanks again.
 
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Thank you for the feedback.

I'm giving both esignal and ninjatrader a trial run right now. I'll post again in a couple of weeks to let you know how it went.

Thanks again.
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I use Esignal for data and NT for charts, the combo works quite well. Esignal data is expensive but reliable. I use NT mainly for the chart trader feature while Esignal software is imo better for long-term or position trading, where I'm tracking a number of symbols at a time.

All the same, when Esignal 11 is released I might drop NT altogether. Depends on the features and functionality.
 
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Interesting, I've never had that problem with TS, but would drop them if I did.

Curious, what platform are you considering using instead?
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I need the TICK data from Tradestation but I use Ninja to trade with.
 
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I need the TICK data from Tradestation but I use Ninja to trade with.
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I have Ninja and IB and get the TICK data no problem.
 
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