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Quote from ForexForex:

That can be taken in two ways.

6 months from now LVS could be at $20.00 and 14.40 was a gift to buy.
OR
6 months from now LVS could be at 7.00 and 14.40 was a gift to sell.


How two ways? Atticus is telling the op his opinion is the stock will go down. So Atticus is saying to buy an option to sell at $14.40 in the future, and sell option to buy.
So if someone buys a reason to sell, AND sells to someone the option to buy, they are not bullish.
 
Quote from trendlover:

How two ways? Atticus is telling the op his opinion is the stock will go down. So Atticus is saying to buy an option to sell at $14.40 in the future, and sell option to buy.
So if someone buys a reason to sell, AND sells to someone the option to buy, they are not bullish.

Yeah, I thought it was obvious that I was recommending selling outright (first post) or shorting the Jan 2010 synthetic at ~14.40 to complete the conversion.
 
Quote from Elitist Trader:

You really should have had every scenario thought out before you entered the trade and planed what you would do in each event. If you don't have this you are just another sucker walking through a minefield.
I couldn't agree more, which is why, now that he's seeing GREEN, the little piggie wants more and more and more and more!

Quote from Elitist Trader:

To the people who are calling him a pig for wanting to maximize his trading profits, GTFO!
Actually I'm the only one call him a PIG.

Greed is good, but only when you know what the hell you're doing (controlled greed), and he obviously does not.
 
Quote from atticus:

Sell some otm puts to increase his long exposure? Really? You think that's a plan?

Wow. I looked at his chart and read what he wrote but my mind instinctively replaced the word "put" with "call". It wasn't until I read your response that I even realized he was suggesting puts...yeah that would be the wrong thing to do.

I personally might consider selling some January 20 Calls, but with Volatility so low right now you run the risk of wanting to buy those back later at a higher price should you decide you to keep the shares. On the other hand, going from $8ish to $20, plus the option premium is more than a good run and might be worth going ahead with. With a trailing stop also in place if the stock moves down to the stop he can get out with a good bit of profit on the stock and close the options position with a likely profit (once again assuming volatility isn't elevated when he needs to get out).
 
Quote from atticus:

Yeah, I thought it was obvious that I was recommending selling outright (first post) or shorting the Jan 2010 synthetic at ~14.40 to complete the conversion.


Atticus, you said a downside for interest rate in this quote, now it is not there. Can you explain that risk? I am not challenging what you say, I am asking that question because I know I do not understand everything with options.
 
Quote from trendlover:

Atticus, you said a downside for interest rate in this quote, now it is not there. Can you explain that risk? I am not challenging what you say, I am asking that question because I know I do not understand everything with options.

14.10 last. 14.40 is looking better and better.

I didn't want to make it more complex, and it's not important as the rho in the Jans can't hurt him. It's only an issue when gearing it up, and the OP wouldn't be trading in excess of his exposure.

The skew is down and out, reflecting a lot of itm hedging (CCs) and outright demand for otm puts. The OP could sell some Jan 12.50C at ~90% vol, but I'd bet that realized vol will exceed 90 annualized.

Jan vol:
 

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Quote from atticus:

14.14 last. 14.40 is looking better and better.

I didn't want to make it more complex, and it's not important as the rho in the Jans can't hurt him. It's only an issue when gearing it up, and the OP wouldn't be trading in excess of his exposure.

The skew is down and out, reflecting a lot of itm hedging (CCs) and outright demand for otm puts. The OP could sell some Jan 12.50C at ~90% vol, but I'd bet that realized vol will exceed 90 annualized.

Jan vol:

Thank you for explaining! Your answer is very technical language for me right now, so it will take time for me to understand that answer. I will read it over again to make sense of what you are saying. I appreciate that you answered.
 
Quote from atticus:

Yeah, I thought it was obvious that I was recommending selling outright (first post) or shorting the Jan 2010 synthetic at ~14.40 to complete the conversion.

My perspective – I’ve been trading this one for the last couple of weeks

My Opinion – Which admittedly isn’t worth much – I would listen to Atticus


You can always get back in


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