Quote from sandygray66:
He's absolutely right and it's high time that someone shouts that the emperor has no clothes on!
Obama is being even more brazen in his shake down of the GM bondholders....saying that they should only get 10% of the equity, while the government and the UAW get 90% of the equity.
I forget the actual breakdown, but the bondholders have something like 2x the amount of secured debt on GM compared to the government's loan and obligations to the UAW.
Yet, because of the Obama squeeze, the UAW will end up controlling GM rather than GM's largest collection of creditors - the bondholders.
This constitutes total socialist theft from the rightful asset holders (the bondholders).
And to make matters worse, many of the largest corporate bondholders will be perfectly happy to see GM go into bankruptcy because they hold CDS's backed by AIG (which in turn is also backed by our good ol' government). Meanwhile, any mom and pop individual bondholders who put their retirement savings into GM bonds will be screwed.
That's Obama socialism for you (he's gotta repay those union bosses for their support)!
Quote from Billybob543:
Sandy, I always thought that you were an ok guy. But....
Quote from sandygray66:
......P.S. Is the market above the day Obama was elected? Inauguration day means nothing. The market reacts to when news and decisions are announced, not the pomp that occurs after them. The writing was on the wall on Nov. 4.
Quote from texrex2002:
People lent money to GM in full faith of our contract law environment. Our fuckhead in office is rapidly trampling all consistency in our contract law environment, so it will be much harder to borrow in the future. If your contract can be torn up at any time and all the assets handed over to labor, are you going to be more or less willing to lend?
Quote from Billybob543:
Sandy, I always thought that you were an ok guy. But now I see that you're just a cunt just like all of the loser right-wingers like Pabst.
The market is above the level where it was on Obama inauguration's day, and you cunts like Pabst are still crying like bitches....losers...
How does it feel that America rejected you losers and you're now a dying breed?
Quote from Billybob543:
Election day.....wtf..?!?!?ROFLMAO
What are you gona say when the market gets above the level on election day...."no I was mistaken, the market needs to be above the level when Obama became Senator in 2005..."
Quote from Billybob543:
Sandy, I always thought that you were an ok guy. But now I see that you're just a cunt just like all of the loser right-wingers like Pabst.
The market is above the level where it was on Obama inauguration's day, and you cunts like Pabst are still crying like bitches....losers...
How does it feel that America rejected you losers and you're now a dying breed?