Heaven is a fairy tale, says physicist Hawking

Quote from achilles28:

I wouldn't consider the probability of the existence of God on par with that of Leprechauns or talking Zebras. One is a logical first-cause to an astonishingly orderly universe. The other two are random creations of the human mind that have no other (seeming) purpose than that of being conjured to prove a point. To wit, you might say the concept of God is just as nonsensical, and I would definitely say it's not. Either the universe created itself (matter coming out of nothing), or God created Himself (God created out of nothing). Or, one could argue the physical universe always existed, where the theologian would argue God always existed. Ironically, both the atheist and theist are forced to share a similar faith in supernatural concepts to explain first-cause. That in itself, is indirect proof the universe is of divine origin.

But, to answer your question, yes, I think unicorns are definitely possible (just a horse with a single horn on it's head). Leprechauns, not so sure about that one... :P
There's nothing logical in God first-cause arguments.

Also, an astonishingly orderly universe is exactly what the universe shows itself not to be, once you start considering what goes on away from the astonishingly narrow view of a simplistic personal perspective you outlined.
Neither is a universe coming from nothing to do with matter coming out of nothing as you suggest.

Stephen Hawking explains how the universe was quite capable of launching its existence on its own. There is no such usefully equivalent account for God, talking zebras or anything supernatural being able to do that.
 
Quote from jem:


Given the state of science according to many scientists it seems you must either believe in unicorns or a Creator... but not neither.

Your problem is that you lump all scientists together and are under the impression that "scientists" all have the same beliefs.

It's just as wrong as when an atheist posts a quote from some priest in some far away land, and then pretend that all priests feel the same way.
 
Quote from stu:


Stephen Hawking explains how the universe was quite capable of launching its existence on its own. There is no such usefully equivalent...

I don't see anything useful in that, either.
 
Quote from achilles28:

But, to answer your question, yes, I think unicorns are definitely possible (just a horse with a single horn on it's head). Leprechauns, not so sure about that one... :P

But don't unicorns also fly?
 
Quote from jem:

done. sorry.
I knew it was not original to me... but I was not sure who said it.

Thank you. Without this I die alone, forgotten.

; )
 
Quote from Kassz007:

Your problem is that you lump all scientists together and are under the impression that "scientists" all have the same beliefs.

It's just as wrong as when an atheist posts a quote from some priest in some far away land, and then pretend that all priests feel the same way.

I wrote many scientists... which is an accurate statement of the scientists who have an opinion on this issue.
 
Quote from stu:

There's nothing logical in God first-cause arguments.

Also, an astonishingly orderly universe is exactly what the universe shows itself not to be, once you start considering what goes on away from the astonishingly narrow view of a simplistic personal perspective you outlined.
Neither is a universe coming from nothing to do with matter coming out of nothing as you suggest.

Stephen Hawking explains how the universe was quite capable of launching its existence on its own. There is no such usefully equivalent account for God, talking zebras or anything supernatural being able to do that.

So whats you non astonishingly narrow view and what percentage of scientists support you view?

Why don't you explain hawkings view? Does he acknowledge the fine tunings? does he not address the first cause creation argument... does he not counter it by suggesting string theory supports the "conjuecture" there could be almost infinite universes.

Basically you just wrote 3 paragraphs which mean nothing.

Try supporting your arguments with quotes from scientists.
 
Quote from Debaser82:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110516/india_nm/india570436

Please, only comment when your IQ is bigger then that of Hawking.

Doesn't it seem odd that the "evidence for the existence of god" is completely hidden from the greatest human minds who spend their professional lives exploring how the universe functions, yet it is perfectly clear to uneducated simpletons who have access to internet-linked terminals?

the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
Albert Einstein
 
Hawking is demon okay.

Hawking thinks he is smarter than the Gods.

Hawking is nothing but a little boy playing God's playbox.

Worship the Gods or die Hawking.

hawking is cursed by the Gods with his disease.

Hawking has disrespected the will of the Gods, and must die!

There is no Jesus or Allah to save you evil-doers from eternal hell fire!


Dam God-foresaken demons!

Mankind has not discovered or invented anything.

Nuclear power is what creates the Sun's energy.

Nuclear power is the God's fire.

Quote from Debaser82:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110516/india_nm/india570436

Please, only comment when your IQ is bigger then that of Hawking.
 
Back
Top