Heat waves in US and Europe would have been ‘virtually impossible’ without climate change: report

[Ricter]

Thats understandable but you shouldn't promise voters you will stop the drilling than issue 1,000 more drilling permits than Trump imo.

I agree. But the public... can't handle the truth. Already just about everyone who has thought about it has come down on either the "can't continue" or "can't stop" side, i.e. we're polarized here, too.

 

[Tony Stark]

I agree. But the public... can't handle the truth. Already just about everyone who has thought about it has come down on either the "can't continue" or "can't stop" side, i.e. we're polarized here, too.

I agree.GOP does have an edge though,they can be honest with their voters about their pro drilling position and not lose any votes because of it.

 

[gwb-trading]

Currents in the Atlantic Ocean could slow sharply by century’s end, new research shows, affecting weather patterns across the globe.
The new research, published in the journal Nature Communications, adds to a growing body of scientific work that describes how humankind’s continued emissions of heat-trapping gases could set off rapid and hard-to-reverse changes in the environment.
Tuesday, July 25, 2023 11:54 AM ET
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/25/climate/atlantic-ocean-tipping-point.html

 

[wrbtrader]

I agree.GOP does have an edge though,they can be honest with their voters about their pro drilling position and not lose any votes because of it.

They and every President since the 70's has broken any promise involving "oil drilling positions" because life changes in the world the day they're elected that's a rude slap in the face of reality.

Part of that reality, consumers refuse to believe they're needed as part of the solution. Instead, we naively believe the government can do it all without us.

Seriously, as an example, I was recently stuck in rush-hour traffic...more than 1/2 of the vehicles I saw had a single occupant and we all were going in the same direction. Also, while driving through the neighborhood...mostly children and teenagers were on bikes or walking. On my street...only one house has an electric vehicle charger...the owner has two hybrid automobiles.

Regardless, the four largest environmental organizations in the country understand that reality and they said they are endorsing President Biden’s bid for re-election, despite anger from activists over his approval of a string of fossil fuel projects, including an enormous oil drilling plan in Alaska and a natural gas pipeline from West Virginia through Virginia.

• The League of Conservation Voters, the Sierra Club, the Natural Resources Defense Council and NextGen America said they were setting aside their concerns over those projects — and the planet-warming emissions they will release.

I'm not joking, consumers and businesses have a crazy appetite for oil as key to their quality of life...we just don't realize we're fucking up the future of our children and grandchildren.

Another reality, it's a global problem...the entire world needs to go green. Thus, we need to help every elected leader and dictator in the world by doing our part...good luck with that.

wrbtrader

 

[wildchild]

Not a single bit of scientific rigor has been applied to this thread.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/25/world/heat-wave-climate-change-us-china-europe-intl/index.html

Extreme heat waves across three continents this monthwere made significantly more likely by the human-caused climate crisis, according to a new analysis released Tuesday as temperatures are still blazing in parts of the Northern Hemisphere.

The “heat hell” searing parts of the United States and southern Europe would have been “virtually impossible” without climate change, while climate change made China’s heat wave at least 50 times more likely, according to a rapid attribution analysis from the World Weather Attribution initiative.

The WWA, a group of international scientists who assess the role of climate change in extreme weather events, spent a week analyzing the dangerous heat waves that have swept the Northern Hemisphere in July, destroying crops and livestock, triggering wildfires, exacerbating water stress and killing people across three continents.

Temperatures in Death Valley reached 128 degrees Fahrenheit (53.3 Celsius) this month and the city of Phoenix has experienced a record-smashing 25 consecutive days of temperatures hotter than 110 degrees Fahrenheit (43.3 Celsius).

China posted an all-time national high temperature at 52.2 degrees Celsius (126 Fahrenheit) earlier this month. And in Europe, local records were broken across parts of Spain and Italy as temperatures edged towards Europe’s all-time record of 48.8 degrees Celsius (119.8 Fahrenheit).

To understand the extent to which the climate crisis affected the likelihood and intensity of this July’s extreme heat, the WWA team examined weather data and computer models to compare the world’s current climate – which is around 1.2 degrees Celsius warmer than the pre-industrial era – with the climate of the past.

They found that “the role of climate change is absolutely overwhelming,” said Friederike Otto, a senior lecturer in climate science at the Grantham Institute for Climate Change and the Environment at Imperial College London.

If humans hadn’t heated the planet by burning oil, coal and gas, these kinds of blistering heat waves would be extremely rare, Otto told reporters on Monday. But, as the world continues to burn fossil fuels, they are no longer unusual, she said.

In today’s climate, extreme heat waves like those the world is currently experiencing are expected once every 15 years for the US and Mexico, once every 10 years in Southern Europe and once every five years for China, the analysis found.

The scientists found that climate change not only drastically increased the likelihood of these heat waves happening, but it is also making them hotter.

Planet-heating pollution made Europe’s heat wave 2.5 degrees Celsius hotter, the North American heat wave 2 degrees Celsius hotter and China’s heatwave 1 degree Celsius hotter, according to the report.

Worse could be in store. If the planet’s averagetemperature rises to 2 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels, extreme heat waves can be expected every two to five years, according to the report.

“It could well be that this is what will be a cool summer in the future, if we don’t stop burning fossil fuels rapidly,” Otto said.

The scientists said that the developing El Niño, the natural climate pattern with a warming impact, likely helped push up temperatures a little – but that global warmingfrom burning fossil fuels was the main reason the heatwaves are so severe.

“The result of this attribution study is not surprising. The world hasn’t stopped burning fossil fuels, the climate continues to warm and heatwaves continue to become more extreme. It is that simple,” said Otto in a statement.

But the study should not be interpreted as evidence of “runaway warming” or “climate collapse,” she added.

“We still have time to secure a safe and healthy future, but we urgently need to stop burning fossil fuels and invest in decreasing vulnerability. If we do not, tens of thousands of people will keep dying from heat-related causes each year.”

Heat waves are one of the deadliest natural hazards. More than 61,000 people died of heat-related deaths during Europe’s record-breaking heat wave last year, according to a recent study.

In Mexico, more than 100 people have died due to heat since March, while countries from the US to Italy have reported steep jumps in hospital admissions as people struggle to cope with soaring temperatures.

Society must rapidly reduce planet-heating pollution, the report authors said. But they alsocalled on countries and cities to adapt health, urban planning and energy systems, as well as accelerating the roll-out of heat action plans to better prepare for the extreme heat the climate crisis has already locked in.

Richard Allan, professor in climate science at the University of Reading in the UK who was not involved in the study, said fluctuating weather patterns determined the location and timing of these heat waves.

“But warming of the climate is promoting moderate heat waves to top off the league extremes and what would have been top of the league heat waves into events impossible in a climate without the heating effects of fossil fuel greenhouse gas emissions.”

FALSE

 

[wrbtrader]

They and every President since the 70's has broken any promise involving "oil drilling positions" because life changes in the world the day they're elected that's a rude slap in the face of reality.

Part of that reality, consumers refuse to believe they're needed as part of the solution. Instead, we naively believe the government can do it all without us.

Seriously, as an example, I was recently stuck in rush-hour traffic...more than 1/2 of the vehicles I saw had a single occupant and we all were going in the same direction. Also, while driving through the neighborhood...mostly children and teenagers were on bikes or walking. On my street...only one house has an electric vehicle charger...the owner has two hybrid automobiles.

Regardless, the four largest environmental organizations in the country understand that reality and they said they are endorsing President Biden’s bid for re-election, despite anger from activists over his approval of a string of fossil fuel projects, including an enormous oil drilling plan in Alaska and a natural gas pipeline from West Virginia through Virginia.

• The League of Conservation Voters, the Sierra Club, the Natural Resources Defense Council and NextGen America said they were setting aside their concerns over those projects — and the planet-warming emissions they will release.

I'm not joking, consumers and businesses have a crazy appetite for oil as key to their quality of life...we just don't realize we're fucking up the future of our children and grandchildren.

Another reality, it's a global problem...the entire world needs to go green. Thus, we need to help every elected leader and dictator in the world by doing our part...good luck with that.

wrbtrader

...The endorsements are some of the earliest by major environmental groups in a presidential contest. It is also the first time the four groups have made a joint endorsement.

In lining up behind the president more than 16 months before the election, some advocates said they hoped to remind Democratic voters that Mr. Biden had enacted the biggest climate legislation in U.S. history, pouring at least $370 billion into clean energy and electric vehicles. His administration has also proposed strict regulations on pollution from automobiles, trucks and power plants that are designed to slash the nation’s emissions to their lowest levels in decades.

“This is an administration that has done more to advance climate solutions than any by far,” said Tiernan Sittenfeld, the senior vice president of government affairs for the League of Conservation Voters.

.....The unyielding response of Italy, France and Germany came amidst a tsunami of global condemnation for Trump’s decision to renege on an agreement made by 195 countries after decades of negotiation. The US will join Syria and Nicaragua as the only governments to be outside the agreement.....

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...thdraw-paris-climate-deal-world-leaders-react

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I find the above to be amazing considering Biden has issue 1,000 more drilling permits than Trump.

Thus, it seems to me they're willing to take a step backwards with Biden to be able to make bigger strides forward in the future especially knowing they will need a President willing to work with other world leaders on the issue of climate change.

wrbtrader

 

[themickey]

If humans hadn’t heated the planet by burning oil, coal and gas, these kinds of blistering heat waves would be extremely rare

If humans hadn't razed forests in the Amazon and Asia.
Building roads, cities, buildings and farmland by destroying and burning timber and failing to replenish what they raped.

 

[wrbtrader]

If humans hadn't razed forests in the Amazon and Asia.
Building roads, cities, buildings and farmland by destroying and burning timber and failing to replenish what they raped.

We are a bunch of idiots. Hopefully, I'm not still alive to see a global disaster that wipes out most of the human population...a global disaster that we idiots created because of the damage we did to our planet.

wrbtrader

 

[Tony Stark]

...The endorsements are some of the earliest by major environmental groups in a presidential contest. It is also the first time the four groups have made a joint endorsement.

In lining up behind the president more than 16 months before the election, some advocates said they hoped to remind Democratic voters that Mr. Biden had enacted the biggest climate legislation in U.S. history, pouring at least $370 billion into clean energy and electric vehicles. His administration has also proposed strict regulations on pollution from automobiles, trucks and power plants that are designed to slash the nation’s emissions to their lowest levels in decades.

“This is an administration that has done more to advance climate solutions than any by far,” said Tiernan Sittenfeld, the senior vice president of government affairs for the League of Conservation Voters.

.....The unyielding response of Italy, France and Germany came amidst a tsunami of global condemnation for Trump’s decision to renege on an agreement made by 195 countries after decades of negotiation. The US will join Syria and Nicaragua as the only governments to be outside the agreement.....

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...thdraw-paris-climate-deal-world-leaders-react

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I find the above to be amazing considering Biden has issue 1,000 more drilling permits than Trump.

Thus, it seems to me they're willing to take a step backwards with Biden to be able to make bigger strides forward in the future especially knowing they will need a President willing to work with other world leaders on the issue of climate change.

wrbtrader

Climate groups may endorse Biden,doesn't mean climate voters will.From my democrat volunteer group climate voters are the most pissed with Biden and wont be volunteering nor voting for him again,followed by blacks than white progressives.