and that is a fantastic reply! Did you think that up yourself? Or does somebody write your material? Can hardly wait for your next reply. It adds so much to the discussion. But I am all for imbecile awareness. It is a terrible disease which too many suffer from. And hopefully we will come up with a cure soon. Thank you for your support.
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Health insurances are going to SURGE 20-40%, when does it end?
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My remarks were with regard to an essential requirement if Obama care is to work well for the American People.Piezoe my friend, we are already single payer. No one is refused care if they need it. It all gets paid for with many palms getting greased in the process. Since we have all pretty much decided that healthcare is a right (which I don't agree with) why not just make health insurance illegal? Seems immoral that somebody should profit from my right. (and after we get rid of all those profiteering insurance companies, we will go after those Doctors who make more money than the average bear.)
What I want to see is routine health care working well and affordable for all Americans regardless of their ability to pay. In my opinion, no society in the 21st Century can call themselves advanced, and civilized, if they deny any citizen access to routine health care at an affordable cost, and I don't mean Emergency Room care.
In my opinion, and I am not in the least hesitant to say this, access to routine healthcare is more important than 2500 F35 fighter jets or 4000 nuclear fusion war heads.
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Nice analysis in that article. Thank you for posting it.
well then we need to make a lot of changes. It takes about 100k of student loan debt to admininster "routine" healthcare. And who knows how much if you need brain surgery. People want doctors, but they don't want to pay for them.My remarks were with regard to an essential requirement if Obama care is to work well for the American People.
What I want to see is routine health care working well and affordable for all Americans regardless of their ability to pay. In my opinion, no society in the 21st Century can call themselves advanced, and civilized, if they deny any citizen access to routine health care at an affordable cost, and I don't mean Emergency Room care.
In my opinion, and I am not in the least hesitant to say this, access to routine healthcare is more important than 2500 F35 fighter jets or 4000 nuclear fusion war heads.
and that is my only point. Up to this point, doctors are free citizens. We the government don't draft them like in a time of war. We can't force young men to become doctors. So to talk about healthcare like it is a national political issue totally ignores the choice of those young men. Without them there is no healthcare. So it really doesn't matter what the government decides to do. It only matters what the doctors decide to do.
and that is my only point. Up to this point, doctors are free citizens. We the government don't draft them like in a time of war. We can't force young men to become doctors. So to talk about healthcare like it is a national political issue totally ignores the choice of those young men. Without them there is no healthcare. So it really doesn't matter what the government decides to do. It only matters what the doctors decide to do.
Consider, if you would, why is the cost of medical car so much higher in the U.S. than in the other industrialized countries we compare ourselves to? How is it that those other 13 countries are able to get any doctors at all to work there? Maybe we could find out how they do it, and do what they do. Why do countries with some of the lowest cost care have some of the best care according to medical outcomes and WHO studies.
Why do the identical medications cost twice as much in the U.S. as in Canada?
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/health-costs-how-the-us-compares-with-other-countries/
Does your position make sense in light of the above?
Rockefeller said "Competition is a sin." If it really didn't matter what the government decided to do, and it only mattered what Rockefeller decided to do, we might still have only one oil company in the country. What would that do for domestic oil prices I wonder?
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I have no position other than letting doctors tell us how the whole deal should work. They know best. I'm comfortable with a health care system run by doctors, not so comfortable with a health care system run by Presidents, former senators, and current congress men. I'm a business man, I know when the insurance company is screwing me, I can handle that. But only the doctor can tell me how it should work. I suppose there are some good doctors and some greedy doctors. All I can go on is my belief that most people, including doctors, are good like me.Consider, if you would, why is the cost of medical car so much higher in the U.S. than in the other industrialized countries we compare ourselves to? How is it that those other 13 countries are able to get any doctors at all to work there? Maybe we could find out how they do it, and do what they do. Why do countries with some of the lowest cost care have some of the best care according to medical outcomes and WHO studies.
Why do the identical medications cost twice as much in the U.S. as in Canada?
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/health-costs-how-the-us-compares-with-other-countries/
Does your position make sense in light of the above?
But it isn't run by doctors and isn't going to be, so this is wishful thinking.
Someone has to pay. That has to be you (personally pay the physician/hospital), the insurance company (which you pay personally, or indirectly if you employed) or the government (which you either pay or go to jail). At least the health insurers are not complete idiots; they understand some things about health care. The government has no idea; it is full of bureaucrats.
Someone has to pay. That has to be you (personally pay the physician/hospital), the insurance company (which you pay personally, or indirectly if you employed) or the government (which you either pay or go to jail). At least the health insurers are not complete idiots; they understand some things about health care. The government has no idea; it is full of bureaucrats.