Quote from Debaser82:
Come to Europe.
Having a baby costs like 1000$ max And the mortality rate is lower then in the US so no quality issues there.
Ofcourse, not everyone is as free market minded here then in the States you know, I could understand how that would be to big of an obstacle to overcome.
Quote from hoodooman:
You are dead wrong Peil.
Quote from bigarrow:
True. I agree with you national health care is the answer. Lets stop a couple of wars and close some overseas bases and trim down foreign aid a little, trim back the tax breaks to the oil companies and there you go, the health care for ALL Americans is paid for, painlessly. Then our American business can reap the benefit of reduced health care costs, and the reduced cost of workers comp. The right is brain dead to not look at all sides of the health care issue.
Quote from tomdavis:
Let's say it costs $10k when the child is born. That's just the beginning. We easily spend more than $10k per year on each of our kids every single year. The hospital bills are where the expenses start. After that, it's food, clothes, soccer, dance lessons, piano lessons, vacations, Chistmas presents, birthday parties, school tutors, etc., etc. Kids are expensive EVERY year, not just the year that they're born.
Why care what the CEO makes? It has zero effect on service provided, the amount of money paid is a very small percent of company revenue.Quote from omegapoint:
All that fraud you always hear Medicare and Medicaid are fraught with comes out of the private sector so there you have the prospects for handing over what your premiums will be controlled by and who. They're just salivating at more of the tacit collusion
premium hikes are governed by. Overpaid CEO's who'll scream
till their death that they earned every penny. Rough work dreaming up schemes for adding to your bottom line. McGuire's
of United Health Care's golden parachute should be a lesson forever.
Quote from Debaser82:
Come to Europe.
Having a baby costs like 1000$ max And the mortality rate is lower then in the US so no quality issues there.
Ofcourse, not everyone is as free market minded here then in the States you know, I could understand how that would be to big of an obstacle to overcome.
Quote from tomdavis:
A national healthcare system only works if you cap costs. When you cap costs, you end up with rationing. My wife's sister lives in Canada. She badly injured her knee in a car accident. She had to wait three months for an MRI and an additional four months for surgery. She was in excruciating pain and had to take strong pain killers. After seven months of pain pills, she was addicted to painkillers and she had to go through treatment for that problem. Now she's finding out that seven months of painkillers caused kidney damage. What a nightmare.
The following article says that wait time for surgery in Canada is over 18 weeks.
http://www.canada.com/health/Surgical+wait+times+increase+Canada/3933033/story.html
Come up with a way to control costs that doesn't result in severe rationing and the entire country will support a national healthcare system.