Health Bill Would Add 3.8% Tax on Investment Income

Quote from kentraderstar:

TheMan, the question is how u will get the votes to passed all the bills?

Abolish IRS? That is immpossible. How will you get senators and house to passed that bill?

Ron Paul is a great man, he will not live to see his principle passed unless texas secede from the U.S.

United State is a big big country and the largest melting pot. The only way you can achieve your principles are to secede from the U.S.
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well, i would have to be President. Would you vote for me if i ran with all of those things as the base of my campaign?



my point is

What this country needs, and what the gov't thinks it needs are completely opposite things.

Making the Gov't larger in order to accomplish a reform of HC is just plain retarded.

What about the Dec. of Independence ?

What happened to all the fundamentals this country was built on?

Where did they all go?

We are in the stages of a complete Gov't takeover of everything any American ever valued. The sad part of it, people are too stupid to realize it is happening and/or are ok with it.
 
we need reform so there will be competition. adding 30 million paying insured is a good thing. removing pre-existing condition is a good thing. Finally insurers have to actually compete and not raise rates 20% EVERY YEAR. wish I had 20% every year compounding my money.
 
like i said, the only way to achieve your principle is secession. Texas, NV and others are Libertarian state and should be secede from the U.S. California, NY, IL, MI, UT, AZ, and others are the people who wants gov to control their lives.

Therefore, you should promote secession and splt the U.S in half like the civil war in the 1860s We have many generals like Robert E Lee now
 
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not with the gov't controlling the entire thing we dont

name 1 govt program that has been a success and not lost a shit ton of money

1. medicaid
2. medicare
3. cash for clunkers
4. the bailout
5. social security
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Social Security has been a great success in preventing abject impoverishment in old age or disablement. The program is efficient and has worked out exactly as envisioned when first adopted. It has been completely self supporting via the separate social security tax. It will require only minor tweaking to take into account changing demographics to make it secure into the foreseeable future, if done now and not put off.

The problem social security faces has nothing to do with any defect in social security itself. The problem now faced is that the money the government has borrowed from the S.S. trust fund can not be paid back to the fund by the government from current revenues without significant cuts in current spending. This is not a fault of social security.

Medicare, admittedly has not worked as well, mainly because medicare consists of government payments on your behalf to a Cartel. This is a far cry from the efficiency and soundness of social security which is sound and 100% controlled by the government .
 
Quote from davidtraderjoe:

we need health care reform. currently system is failing
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And I need Lasik surgery. I just prefer someone who has some competence do the surgery.
 
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Social Security has been a great success in preventing abject impoverishment in old age or disablement. The program is efficient and has worked out exactly as envisioned when first adopted. It has been completely self supporting via the separate social security tax. It will require only minor tweaking to take into account changing demographics to make it secure into the foreseeable future, if done now and not put off.

The problem social security faces has nothing to do with any defect in social security itself. The problem now faced is that the money the government has borrowed from the S.S. trust fund can not be paid back to the fund by the government from current revenues without significant cuts in current spending. This is not a fault of social security.

Medicare, admittedly has not worked as well, mainly because medicare consists of government payments on your behalf to a Cartel. This is a far cry from the efficiency and soundness of social security which is sound and 100% controlled by the government .
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and as i said it is not sound. Why?

Because the govt borrowed from it bec they run it. So they can do what ever they want to do. They cant pay it back because they are broke.

And let me guess, you think this gov't healthcare is a good thing dont you?
 
Watch'n the Cspan votes.....Here we go....Passing the biggest move to privatize one of the largest industry in the country.

Bye bye miss american pie....

Thank god I'm in the Oil business....as things crumble, the future holds the fate of the dollar, the market , and companies to lay off 100,000s of thousand more people, interest and dividens taxed even more, income taxes being raised.......OIL is creeping up up up....

Thank God for the black gold!
Thankf God for the good state of TEXAS.

The rest of you who voted for Obama and his ideas...congrats..you'r about to live in the perfect bed for you and you'r state who will pay the ultimate price. Hats off to you...
 
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Watch'n the Cspan votes.....Here we go....Passing the biggest move to privatize one of the largest industry in the country.

Bye bye miss american pie....

Thank god I'm in the Oil business....as things crumble, the future holds the fate of the dollar, the market , and companies to lay off 100,000s of thousand more people, interest and dividens taxed even more, income taxes being raised.......OIL is creeping up up up....

Thank God for the black gold!
Thankf God for the good state of TEXAS.

The rest of you who voted for Obama and his ideas...congrats..you'r about to live in the perfect bed for you and you'r state who will pay the ultimate price. Hats off to you...
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last hour of being an American

hope everyone enjoys it
 
How on earth can a man believe that insurance companies should not be allowed to deny coverage for an existing condition.

Shit it shouldnt be long before we are legally allowed to take loaded dice to the casino.

Fixing HC in the USA would be hugely detrimental to the economy for a few years. Maybe even worse than the recession.

But here is how you do it.

1. do away with the tie between insurance and regular non emergency healthcare.

2. Do away with the tie between employment and health insurance.

3. provide for goverment run FINANCING for the health care cost of the poor.

Bingo, five years or so of economic adjustment and the healthcare problem is solved.
 
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