"He Never Went In": Officer On Duty Filmed "Doing Nothing" During Florida Shooting
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How about answering the points I made? I didn't use numbers to make any point. I was pretty clear that they were irrelevant. What matters is that all those shootings happened despite all those countries having gun bans, this is a fact. My points are pure logic.
When you're ready to answer the logic points I made which you avoided in all your posts, then we'll discuss who is the intellectually lazy here.
No Mr. Tony, you're in fantasy land. A proficient teacher with brain would have a decent chance of ambushing a shooter with an evil AR-15 if he locked the door to his classroom and shot the perp just as he broke in. An unarmed teacher, OTOH, would have no chance.
Remember when the Supreme Court ruled in June of 2005 that the police don't have a constitutional duty to protect us?
Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone
https://nyti.ms/2k1TwPy
Clearly the best way to keep us safe, then, is with gun free zones. After all, they even work against Marines!
Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone
https://nyti.ms/2k1TwPy
Clearly the best way to keep us safe, then, is with gun free zones. After all, they even work against Marines!
The fact that liberals reject out of hand every possible solution except for firearms bans indicates they have an agenda that has nothing to do with school safety.
How about answering the points I made? I didn't use numbers to make any point. I was pretty clear that they were irrelevant. What matters is that all those shootings happened despite all those countries having gun bans, this is a fact. My points are pure logic.
When you're ready to answer the logic points I made which you avoided in all your posts, then we'll discuss who is the intellectually lazy here.
I don’t know about countries like Canada having a gun ban in 1975. Is that true? What about Australia?
Also, what kind of weapons were used in the shooting outside of the US? Are we differentiating between before and after gun control laws were enacted?
There are a lot of variables to consider before we make sweeping statements. Here’s what all the mass shootings across the world looks like:
Now, correlation doesn’t necessarily mean causation but it doesn’t either. We can’t ignore the numbers.
People say it’s not the guns, it’s something else like mental illness or video games or disintegration of the nuclear family but the law of large numbers teaches us it’s about the determinative factors and the frequency in which those factors combine to achieve outcome. And the central, critical factor is the gun. We have reached critical mass with the amount of guns in this country. The mass shootings are going to continue until the total number or guns decreases in this country.
We don’t have to ban firearms we just have to stop letting anybody get them willy nilly.
Well, if even you don't know the answer to that, how come you're using other countries as an example of something that you advocate and you don't even know about how or when it was inacted?
Again, you don't have any logic, much less facts backing your proposition, but you still want it to become law. That is my point. You yourself said: "There are a lot of variables to consider before we make sweeping statements."
The only problem is that, to people like you, the "lot of variables" must not include anything that is logic and goes against your argument. And despite admitting that "there isn't necessarily a causality" and not addressing the logical points I made AGAIN, like the obvious fact that laws only are effective to people that respect law, which obviously doesn't include a murderer, you still want to not only "sweep statements", but also you want to make it a law.
That's contradictory.