Have you used dbphoenix's teachings to become a successful trader?

Again.

As I've said repeatedly, the SLA/AMT is a primer, for the beginner and the damaged. If one not only reads it but studies it, he can develop the habits required for any trader: (1) accepting the certainty of loss, (2) thorough preparation, (3) planning, (4) discipline, (5) patience, (6) data collection and maintenance. If he can't or won't do any of this, then it really doesn't matter what approach he pursues: he will fail.

Once one acquires and develops these habits and they become second-nature, there are of course nuances that become easy to incorporate as a result of the experience of trading behavior, e.g., the significance of and importance of double tops and bottoms (and higher lows and lower highs) or the importance of focusing on the median of a trend channel or trading range rather than the limits.

I should also point out for those who might actually be sufficiently interested in this to read the material *gasp!* that reading and study are not nearly enough. One must also engage the material, not be content with watching and following and copying. If one leans toward the latter behaviors, he needs to find someone in a trading room who provides calls (there is no such thing as a "real-time" call on a message board). I'm sure there are at least some good ones out there.

But if one wants to become an independent trader, he must take hold of the material and trade it and make it his own, whether by developing his own plan or by following the SLA/AMT. While many are content to follow and copy somebody else, this is not only expensive but ultimately unsatisfactory.
 
Take his recent comment on the 18th where he said that "now we switch to SLA" in 40D's journal. I mark on this chart with the blue arrow where the comment was made, and show possible entries via the green arrows that looked good once price broke above, and stayed above, the overnight high of 4390. Who knows, maybe he made an earlier entry once we broke about the PDH, the green line, at 4388. But as you can see, price dropped shortly there after, so I doubt the long could have been held.

I'm no expert, and this is hindsight, but given that the arrow is after a lower high, it's possible that real-time price action was bearish for him at that point.

I think I learn more by seeing what people do rather than what they say. But not a single trader here at ET has yet a to show even a few days worth of trades, so it makes me really question what they do if you can't even see that they are in fact trading the way they say is a good way to trade.
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I think that if any trader here was to share their trading plan, and then they showed their trades, I doubt someone intelligent enough to follow the plan could replicate the exact same trades taken. Each trader simply has too many filters that are in the brain, but not in the trading plan, and this therefore makes listening to anyone else almost not that useful.

To me, the fact that you're seeing that there are more variables than what the SLA/AMT portrays is a very good thing. You see why it can't be automated, or at least, why a purely mechanical application is probably not that profitable. That's also why successful price action traders spend a considerable amount of time in replays to learn through experience the subtleties of why two similar situations yielded different results (apart from noise of course - nothing works 100% of the time). Subtleties which may not end up described in their trading plan, for lack of being easy to pinpoint. And replays aren't just at the beginning of their career, either: I know of one who's been at it 40+ years and still does hours of replays every week in addition to his trading, to stay in touch with the markets. Heck, one of his criteria for taking or leaving entries wasn't put into words until he was already 30+ years into it! If you can't "see" something, if it doesn't make sense, that's your sign to take a step back and replay lots of instances of it until something clicks. We distinguish patterns from noise through repetition, no way around it.

Back to pure SLA, the way I see it personally, for intra-day, it's easy exits until one knows price action more intimately: hang on and once price stalls through the line, quit before it turns back. Easy, no hesitation, no scalping tiny initial profits, no anguish, just waiting for the condition to occur. I think that's what @dbphoenix means by "keeps traders out of trouble"; if someone keeps exiting poorly or emotionally, SLA exits might already be an improvement.

I don't know whether anyone trades based solely on that SLA-AMT.pdf thing, so you raise a good point there. However even DB says that it's more of training wheels on one's way into more experience with price action.
 
Well, we got within six points of the projected target today after a considerable advance. And it didn't require a Ph.D. in math, physics, or computer technology. All it required was the ability to draw a pipe. Odd that no one did.



"(Bloomberg) -- High-frequency trading firm Virtu Financial Inc. reported another year without a single day of losses, extending a near-perfect streak stretching back to 2009 that contrasts with dwindling profits at competitors.

Virtu made money every day in 2014, generating revenue of $723 million and net income of $190 million, according to financial statements filed with regulators Friday. The 148-employee company, which uses computerized strategies to buy and sell everything from stocks to currencies, has had only one losing day in its six years of operation."


---Only one losing day in 6 years of operation
---Made money everyday in 2014 ($723 million revenue, $190 million income with 148 employees, so each person generated more than a million income on average)
---uses computerized strategies to buy and sell everything

Computer technology revolutionizes every aspect of trading business. Your best asset developed over 3-4 decades on drawing a straight line could become a big burden to learn something new and more advanced.
 
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"(Bloomberg) -- High-frequency trading firm Virtu Financial Inc. reported another year without a single day of losses, extending a near-perfect streak stretching back to 2009 that contrasts with dwindling profits at competitors.

Virtu made money every day in 2014, generating revenue of $723 million and net income of $190 million, according to financial statements filed with regulators Friday. The 148-employee company, which uses computerized strategies to buy and sell everything from stocks to currencies, has had only one losing day in its six years of operation."


---Only one losing day in 6 years of operation
---Made money everyday in 2014 ($723 million revenue, $190 million income with 148 employees, so each person generated more than a million income on average)
---uses computerized strategies to buy and sell everything

Computer technology revolutionizes every aspect of trading business. Your best asset developed over 3-4 decades on drawing a straight line could become a big burden to learn something new and more advanced.

Before getting too excited, I suggest that interested traders read the thread.

That aside, yes, computer technology does alter the landscape, but it doesn't change it. The market remains an auction market, and an auction market is governed by the Law of Supply and Demand. And given that the typical retail trader does not have access to this sort of computer power, it isn't pertinent.

Given the experience of the last twenty years, the result of computer usage has meant for the most part that the typical trader loses more money faster.
 
One of the largest traders in the world, with multiple phd's (physics, math, economics) uses straight lines to give context to his trades. Albeit, differently than Wyckoff, they are still straight lines. And his mentor, a phd who used straight lines...

Who are you referring to?
 
If by "pipe dream" you mean the idea that trading will make one a millionaire without understand how the market works and how and why price moves as it does, I agree. One has at least to understand, again, that price has two states available to it: trending and ranging. If he doesn't know what that means or how to distinguish one from the other, much less how to put that knowledge to profitable use, then he will fail.

If one cannot see a stride here, lines or no lines, he needs to explore scalping strategies:

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All you need is a time machine. Easy, right??
 
Trend lines are useful for clearly illustrating when the trajectory of price has changed, and that one should be alert for the possibility of a range forming, or trend resumption or reversal.

I know people who say trend lines are arbitrary as one can draw them in several ways, and they prefer support and resistance lines. Well, there is a paper available from the New York Fed site where a study was done on S/R lines on a few forex pairs to see if price respected these levels intraday at least. The comparison was between randomly drawn lines and the levels provided by several Forex firms to their customers daily. The finding was that price respected randomly drawn levels 56.2% of the time, and the Forex firm levels 60.8% of the time. There was also a significant difference in the usefulness of the levels between firms.

All said hardly an earth shaking difference, so pick your poison.
 
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