After watching the massacre in the Orlando, we have heard the media claim they had no idea why the shooter killed all those people. Now we have had some time to reflect, and the story is out of the news cycle, I was wondering if they figured it out yet. Hillary Clinton has not been able to connect the dots yet so this is tough case to crack.
Have they found the Orlando shooters motive yet?
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Yes, it is very puzzling.
I haven't heard this put like this yet, so i'll spell it out here:
There was a second generation Muslim brought up in the mosque, who took his religion pretty seriously, seriously enough to pull out a knife when gay compatriots made fun of religion in conversation. What's wrong with this picture? Technically there should be no gay Muslims, but in Mateen, we had this paradox. Seriously gay, seriously Muslim...and it became apparent to his sense of awareness, that his salvation was seriously in jeopardy as a result. Probably he would have continued living a double life as a married (to a woman) Muslim man by day, and single gay man by night...except that it sounds like he had a bad experience among his gay relations, and suspected he might now have HIV. Now his day of death is that much closer, and he still hasn't got his salvation straightened out, according to Islamic indicators. So he's mad, and now he's also worried about his salvation. Everything that happens after this is all about securing his salvation, according to core Islamic guidelines. Offering allegiance to ISIS is about securing salvation...as much as yelling "Allah akbar" is about obtaining salvation (dying while yelling it assures salvation as a martyr). There is also an effort to deceive Allah into believing that the gay Muslim man is not really gay at all, or that he is sorry for being gay...by killing as many gay as he can before dying in allegiance with ISIS, the face of ORTHODOX ISLAM.
We likely would not have seen this if he was not brought up in a mosque and did not take ORTHODOX ISLAM so seriously.
There was a second generation Muslim brought up in the mosque, who took his religion pretty seriously, seriously enough to pull out a knife when gay compatriots made fun of religion in conversation. What's wrong with this picture? Technically there should be no gay Muslims, but in Mateen, we had this paradox. Seriously gay, seriously Muslim...and it became apparent to his sense of awareness, that his salvation was seriously in jeopardy as a result. Probably he would have continued living a double life as a married (to a woman) Muslim man by day, and single gay man by night...except that it sounds like he had a bad experience among his gay relations, and suspected he might now have HIV. Now his day of death is that much closer, and he still hasn't got his salvation straightened out, according to Islamic indicators. So he's mad, and now he's also worried about his salvation. Everything that happens after this is all about securing his salvation, according to core Islamic guidelines. Offering allegiance to ISIS is about securing salvation...as much as yelling "Allah akbar" is about obtaining salvation (dying while yelling it assures salvation as a martyr). There is also an effort to deceive Allah into believing that the gay Muslim man is not really gay at all, or that he is sorry for being gay...by killing as many gay as he can before dying in allegiance with ISIS, the face of ORTHODOX ISLAM.
We likely would not have seen this if he was not brought up in a mosque and did not take ORTHODOX ISLAM so seriously.
The FBI could find no proof at all that the shooter was gay. No phone calls, no app hookups, nothing.. So I gotta think he wasn't gay, it was made up narrative after the fact to deflect from the idea that mainstream Muzzies kill queers, hate Jews and Christians, etc...
What exactly is a second generation muslim and what do you mean he was brought up in a mosque?
Liberals, and lots of conservatives too apparently, don't seem to understand that they take their religion far more seriously than you do.
Yes, it is very puzzling.
I can't imagine she really believes this dumb crap herself. She probably gets paid per tweet by the Saudis.
"paid per tweet", very insightful
Liberals, and lots of conservatives too apparently, don't seem to understand that they take their religion far more seriously than you do.
That's because it is not a "religion" the way we think about it in the west. It's an entire social system that covers all facets of day to day life, not just "religion".
I can guarantee you the founders did not have Islam in mind when proposed religious freedom.