Have some trade ideas and looking for extensible trading platform?

Quote from droskill:

The answer is "it depends" - you can't just blanket say that one is better than the others. They each have strengths and weaknesses. Tradestation is great as long as you need to only test single securities. If you need to test a portfolio, then Tradingblox, Tradersstudio, Wealth-lab and Amibroker are all good choices.

Up and comers include Right Edge Systems and a host of other ones...you have to try them out to see which one works for you.

Why is testing a portfolio so important? you just have to run multiple times for single instrument, am I right?
 
Nope - not that simple - lots of different interactions to consider in terms of an overall system. For instance, you are likely to be capital constrained at any given time when you have a lot of signals coming from a system. Which positions due you take and which ones do you ignore? That's just a sample of the issues that come up in portfolio testing.
 
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Nope - not that simple - lots of different interactions to consider in terms of an overall system. For instance, you are likely to be capital constrained at any given time when you have a lot of signals coming from a system. Which positions due you take and which ones do you ignore? That's just a sample of the issues that come up in portfolio testing.

Okay, then I shouldn't have opened TS. What's the next best that I should definitely take a look? It's impossible to try them out (I mean try them all with meaningful comparisons, because each one of them has a language that I have to learn well).
The wealth-lab's strength is that it's C#.
 
If you want C#, take a look at Right Edge Systems - they use it as well. As does OpenQuant (which I forgot to mention in my last post). The reality is that learning a program is learning a program - regardless of language because each program uses different classes and methods - so while you may know the language constructs, you won't know the functions.
 
Quote from droskill:

If you want C#, take a look at Right Edge Systems - they use it as well. As does OpenQuant (which I forgot to mention in my last post). The reality is that learning a program is learning a program - regardless of language because each program uses different classes and methods - so while you may know the language constructs, you won't know the functions.

I don't want C# specificly, I am okay with C, C++, Java, etc. That way I don't have to learn a new special-purposed script language...

You think TraderStudio (or which other one?) is the next best than TS, since TS doesn't have portfolio level backtesting?
 
Here's the thing - I can say these are good programs but they may or may not talk to you - you should really try them out. Just about all of them offer a free trial (Tradersstudio does not). So, if I were you, I'd download and try out:

- OpenQuant
- RightEdge Systems

If those two don't work, then keep working down the list.

I personally think Tradersstudio is a fine program. And I use Amibroker for it's speed and quick implementation. I've looked at all the above and they don't appeal to me because I'm not a programmer and in my experience you have to write a lot more code to get basic stuff done - which can be done in 3 lines in AB.

If you want to get a sense of the difference in code size - check out Traders.com (Technical Analysis of Stocks and Commodities) - and just look at the sample systems that are coded in various languages/systems.

Here's a sample:

http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/2009/01/TradersTips.html
 
Quote from droskill:

Here's the thing - I can say these are good programs but they may or may not talk to you - you should really try them out. Just about all of them offer a free trial (Tradersstudio does not). So, if I were you, I'd download and try out:

- OpenQuant
- RightEdge Systems

If those two don't work, then keep working down the list.

I personally think Tradersstudio is a fine program. And I use Amibroker for it's speed and quick implementation. I've looked at all the above and they don't appeal to me because I'm not a programmer and in my experience you have to write a lot more code to get basic stuff done - which can be done in 3 lines in AB.

If you want to get a sense of the difference in code size - check out Traders.com (Technical Analysis of Stocks and Commodities) - and just look at the sample systems that are coded in various languages/systems.

Here's a sample:

http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/2009/01/TradersTips.html

Thanks so much for the informative guidance. Sorry I didn't make myself clearer.

I am actually in favor of easy language type of scripting. The only thing is that I want to be able to extend if (1) I want to speed things up; (2) I want to create my own faster or more complicated signal. That's when I need C#, C, C++, Java, etc.

For WealthLab, I saw people actually link it to R, which is a statistical data analysis language, offering huge amount of benefit for all kinds of stats/math functions.

So we want both simple/easy/fast prototyping as well as extensibility...

And next question is which software has lots of user-base so people can easily exchange ideas? Which one has more historical data?

Anymore thoughts?
 
Quote from droskill:

Here's the thing - I can say these are good programs but they may or may not talk to you - you should really try them out. Just about all of them offer a free trial (Tradersstudio does not). So, if I were you, I'd download and try out:

- OpenQuant
- RightEdge Systems

If those two don't work, then keep working down the list.

I personally think Tradersstudio is a fine program. And I use Amibroker for it's speed and quick implementation. I've looked at all the above and they don't appeal to me because I'm not a programmer and in my experience you have to write a lot more code to get basic stuff done - which can be done in 3 lines in AB.

If you want to get a sense of the difference in code size - check out Traders.com (Technical Analysis of Stocks and Commodities) - and just look at the sample systems that are coded in various languages/systems.

Here's a sample:

http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/2009/01/TradersTips.html

Honestly this is a great idea to compare all these software! Brilliant man!
 
Quote from mizhael:

Honestly this is a great idea to compare all these software! Brilliant man!

Looks like

NeuralShell Trader
and
STRATASEARCH

have the smallest code sizes... interesting...
 
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