Have Our Troops Taken Needless Casualties To Appease Mulsims?

Quote from traderNik:
It is difficult to explain to people why, now that Hussein is in jail, there is more murder and mayhem than ever before.


Uhhh, maybe because he was a BRUTAL MF'er that killed off a few people that he believed to be his enemy ?

In other words , he terrorized his own country so he could stay in power.
 
who cares if saddam was a murdering a-hole?

there are far worse dictators in the world than saddam at the moment.

saddam is just playing college boy pranks in comparison.

will we do anything about these other a-holes?

no way jose!

why?

cos they dont have anything worth having or they are too powerful.

saddam just had all the right ingredients: oil, oil, a grudge from a previous failed war, oil, some alleged threat/wmd's, some oil, a bad pr job due to his evilness, some oil, and errr some oil.

did i mention oil by the way?
 
Quote from Haroki:

Quote from traderNik:
It is difficult to explain to people why, now that Hussein is in jail, there is more murder and mayhem than ever before.


Uhhh, maybe because he was a BRUTAL MF'er that killed off a few people that he believed to be his enemy ?

In other words , he terrorized his own country so he could stay in power.
??????? How does this counter the position that violence is worse with Saddam out of power?

Besides, on the bottom of page 7, I gave 6 examples of dictators still in power with the same reputation. I don't see much US outrage about them.
 
Quote from riserburn:

??????? How does this counter the position that violence is worse with Saddam out of power?

Besides, on the bottom of page 7, I gave 6 examples of dictators still in power with the same reputation. I don't see much US outrage about them.

How do YOU spell repression ??
 
Quote from Haroki:

How do YOU spell repression ??

???????????

What the hell is the significance of this?? How does this relate to the post you quoted? How does your last reply to me relate to the post you quoted? Did you post this in the wrong forum?
 
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Quote from riserburn:

??????? How does this counter the position that violence is worse with Saddam out of power?

Besides, on the bottom of page 7, I gave 6 examples of dictators still in power with the same reputation. I don't see much US outrage about them.
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How do YOU spell repression ??


Was I talking to you ???
 
Quote from Haroki:
Was I talking to you ???

No man, you're evidently talking to yourself...

Anyway, back to the discussion at hand...

I notice that the ET right aren't exactly jumping up to back the bizarre idea that a majority of Americans would support the invasion of a sovereign nation for the purpose of securing US oil supplies.

After this, I doubt AAA can understand that it's the impossibility of defining the mission in Iraq, especially now, that is causing unnecessary US casualties, as opposed to the 'appeasement' of Muslims.
 
Quote from riserburn:

I disagree. If this administration had publicly based any of it's original reasons for invading Iraq on the pretenses of securing oil, it would have resulted in a serious volley of criticism from all sides politically. Considering the climate of public opinion at the time, with 9/11 fresh on everyone's minds, any justifications short of terrorism and/or a threat of national security was out of the question. He would have lost enough GOP support to cost him reelection and he knew it.

While some Americans wouldn't oppose a war to secure oil, I have to disagree with you there as well. There would have been enough public opposition there as well to cost him reelection. Besides, we don't have to have it, and by weaning ourselves off it, we would indeed be effectively cutting off a major source of terrorist funding. Afterall, isn't that the latest spin from this administration? The curious thing to me is it didn't take a war to achieve this to begin with.

I don't think this administration was planning on "stealing" it. I believe they were operating under the pretenses that the Iraqi majority would be so "grateful" that they would simply install a US friendly regime and, once again, consider us good potential customers. Don't forget, under Saddam, Total Fina Elf and Lukoil would have gotten the Lion's share. Now W's major campaign contributors couldn't have that could they?

I should have been more specific in describing the situation in which the American public would approve of a war to secure oil supplies. I don't think anything resembling the current situation or the situation preceding the Iraq invasion would be sufficient. I can see a situation in which, for example, we faced a crippling boycott, or if for example, Saudi Arabia were taken over by al qaeda, then such an invasion would not seem implausible.

I wasn't advocating it, but rathr I was trying to draw a distinction with the administration's ever changing justifications for war. Anyway, if we wanted to take someone's oil, Venezuela is a lot handier.
 
traderNik


Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 844


03-04-06 06:05 PM



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Quote from Haroki:
Was I talking to you ???
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No man, you're evidently talking to yourself...out your ass.


Nice editing there Res.....
 
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