Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
So we let the fanatical Muslims, the "evil doers" set our standards of ethical and civilized behavior for the United States of America and how they treat human beings? The way they behave, is our rationalization for our behavior?
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
If you send troops into combat, you have a moral obligation to them to do everything possible within the law to prevent them taking casualties. This is a concept that liberals , most of whom never served, can't understand.
Quote from FredBloggs:
you mean like bush?
you know - that coward who was snorting coke and drinking bourbon with his feet up back home during nam cos daddy pulled a few of the ol right wing strings. is he the kind of liberal that never served?
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
So we let the fanatical Muslims, the "evil doers" set our standards of ethical and civilized behavior for the United States of America and how they treat human beings? The way they behave, is our rationalization for our behavior?
Oy vey.....
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
That's not what we're saying at all. If we were, it would justify indiscriminate terrorist bombings of neighborhoods in Iraq that harbored insurgents, assasinations of thugs like al-Sadr and religious repression.
In fact, we're arguing the opposite, namely that Bush and his crowd have been overly cowed by pressure to appease these people. Instead of fighting them like we're in a war, we have bent over backwards to minimize damage to mosques, even when they were being used as bases for attacks. We have forced soldiers to engage in deadly house to house combat, rather than bomb hostile areas. We ceded political control to religious fanatics rather than confront them and be accused of being latter day Crusaders.
If we had used the same approach in WW II, we'd still be fighting it.
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
That's not what we're saying at all. If we were, it would justify indiscriminate terrorist bombings of neighborhoods in Iraq that harbored insurgents, assassinations of thugs like al-Sadr and religious repression.
In fact, we're arguing the opposite, namely that Bush and his crowd have been overly cowed by pressure to appease these people. Instead of fighting them like we're in a war, we have bent over backwards to minimize damage to mosques, even when they were being used as bases for attacks. We have forced soldiers to engage in deadly house to house combat, rather than bomb hostile areas. We ceded political control to religious fanatics rather than confront them and be accused of being latter day Crusaders.
If we had used the same approach in WW II, we'd still be fighting it.
Quote from FredBloggs:
aa- dont worry, there is hope. the main thing is that you show a concern for us soldiers lives. this could be the start of something beautiful for you as you start to become aware of the value of all human life. i hope so.
perhaps, while you spare a thought for the lives of the brave us forces in iraq (sent out to do a job by the worlds biggest moron - that they probably never signed up to do - ie fight an illegal war), you could also spare a thought for the people of iraq who:
- never asked for saddam,
- never asked for the fundamental terrorists who now wreck more destruction,
- and never asked for their country to be invaded, turned upside down, and their sacred places ruined.
i am sure that if someone rolled a tank through your neighbourhood, threatened your parents at the end of a gun in case they were terrorists, that you to would feel some bitterness.
peace.
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
Geez, you right wingers are sure funny.
For the longest time it was pro Bush, pro war, yada, yada, yada.
Now that we are failing, it is time to say Bush didn't fight the war correctly.
Too much......
More chickenhawks telling others how to fight wars.
Pathetic.....