Nonesense. There is nothing fundamentalist about this. Itâs just another popular movement competing for global dominance. Letâs not try to separate the guys in the caves from the Muslim street which morally supports their cause. To put it in another way, suppose you and I agree that some guy is evil. I kill him, but you didnât want me to because itâs murder. Nevertheless, my actions you condemn caused a place in your heart to ring with satisfaction because this man you despise is now gone.Quote from FredBloggs:
this is mostly bullshit. actually, its quite sickening bull shit.
every muslim in the west is outraged by the majority of these incidents. as for the easten muslims, well we never get to hear what their response is do we?
all you mean to say is NO FUNDAMENTALIST OUTRAGE.
There are still plenty of practicing Muslims in the West who still want to believe itâs the West and its policies that make Muslims do nasty things. Having said that, there is a growing chorus of Muslim leaders condemning violent Jihad, but itâs still a minority. And many who do, do so grudgingly because they would look stupid apologizing for it, or remaining silent, as the Muslim World continues to make an ass of itself. At least this is a long way from the days when every time one Muslim commits violence, another would quickly change the subject to another diatribe about Israel and Palestine.
False. Anyone has access to al-jazeera here in the states. All they have to do is subscribe to a satellite service that offers it. We also have access to it on the web.Quote from FredBloggs:
the truth seems to be that in the usa muslim press like al-jazeera is pretty much banned. this is called PROPAGANDA!!! you are believing exactly what THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE.
If youâre wondering why our major cable/satellite providers do not offer al-jazerra, it has to do with the lack of interest, more than government intervention. Unlike our European and East-Canadian friends, as well as the Muslim World, There arenât enough Americans who wallow in paranoid conspiracy theories to make it profitable. Even the Americans who love Michael Moore would be turned off by al-Jazeera. And our Muslims are much more assimilated than Muslims in Canada and Europe, who canât let a day go by without watching the program.
Everyone knows that countries and cultures have different belief systems. But if you want to talk about who is thick-headed, how about all those cultural relativists in Europe who rolled over and played dead as their own society and culture got run over? Americans would never let non-assimilating Muslims, and their political Islamist infrastructure take root in the states as it has (irreversibly Iâm afraid) in parts of Europe. We have a Mexican immigration problem, sure, but at least Mexicans and Americans share many Western and Christian values.Quote from FredBloggs:
also, you forget that some countries have different belief structures and different ideas of what is right and wrong.
it is these differing philosophical ideas of what is right and wrong between countries (especially usa & islam) that causes so much tension.
most (but not all) in the states are just too fucking thick to see this, let alone get their tiny inbred red-neck heads around such an idea as different concepts as right and wrong.
Youâre the one bringing it up. By the way, Israel has been pacified by itâs own majority of Leftists. 18% of Israelis are Muslim already. Israel canât even help itself. And itâs a waste of time and debate to bring up the Jews when we talk about the growing conflict between major civilizations. Using the Jews to support tit-for-tat arguments is useless today. As Iâve said before, we are now on our 5th year since 9/11, and most people in the West realize that the Palestine and Israel conflict has much to do about nothing.Quote from FredBloggs:
i love the way you bring up a palestinian incident. how about this...
israel create ghetto, cut off water supplies, murder children, bulldoze communities - no jewish outrage.
does this mean all jews are shits? no. i know that many jews ARE outraged by the acts of isreal, but do you get to hear about them? NO BECAUE IT WOULD BE AGAINST ISRAEL & BUSHS AGENDA!!!