Have EVs been overhyped as taking over Gas vehicles? Is realization setting in?

The inconvenience of having to plan your trip around charging stations is kinda nuisance and the fact that EV's are undependable is another and then there is the higher cost that's not really alleviated by government rebates. It's great that the government is giving rebates but the dealers have also risen the price to exactly offset the rebates so at the end us consumers are not really saving any money and are still spending more to buy the EV's. And finally in terms of the environment, the discarding of the used-up EV batteries is polluting as well and maybe even more polluting than fossil fuel.

Personally I would never go for a pure EV. The most that I will go for is a hybrid.
 
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The Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid and the Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid Coupé draw their system output of 500 kW (680 PS; Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid: Fuel consumption combined 3.9–3.7 l/100 km, electricity consumption 19.6–18.7 kWh/100 km, CO2 emissions combined 90–85 g/km; Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid Coupé: Fuel consumption combined 3.9–3.7 l/100 km, electricity consumption 19.6–18.7 kWh/100 km, CO2 emissions combined 90–85 g/km) from the intelligent interaction of a four-litre V8 engine (404 kW/550 PS) and an electric motor integrated into the eight-speed Tiptronic S transmission (100 kW/136 PS). The maximum system torque of 900 Nm is available from just above idle. Both models accelerate from a standing start to 100 km/h in 3.8 seconds and reach a top speed of 295 km/h. This exceptional performance is matched by a high level of efficiency: the Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid and Turbo S E-Hybrid Coupé can drive for up to 40 kilometres with zero local emissions. The average NEDC consumption is 3.9–3.7 l/100 km (fuel) and 19.6–18.7 kWh/100 km (electric).

In addition to the two top models, the hybrid range from Porsche now includes the new Cayenne E-Hybrid Coupé with system power of 340 kW (462 PS; Fuel consumption combined 3.2–3.1 l/100 km, electricity consumption 18.7–17.7 kWh/100 km, CO2 emissions combined 75–72 g/km), torque of 700 Nm, and electric range of up to 43 kilometres. The Cayenne E-Hybrid, which now features a gasoline particulate filter, is available to order again.


Buy Porsche, man!
 
Taking the ‘climate emergency’ at face value, giving every man, woman, and child in the developed world a 4,000 pound lump of steel and toxic metals is the dumbest f*cking thing imaginable, as far as the environment goes.

True sustainability means consuming far less of everything, especially of energy. Right now politicians and activists are hyping the BS that there’s some kind of miraculous techno-industrial solution to let us continue our grotesquely inefficient consumption, and magically generate geometrically growing profits/surpluses with steadily falling inputs. Ain’t gonna happen, and so far global CO2 production has done nothing but hit ATHs.
 
Specterx said:
Taking the ‘climate emergency’ at face value, giving every man, woman, and child in the developed world a 4,000 pound lump of steel and toxic metals is the dumbest f*cking thing imaginable, as far as the environment goes.

True sustainability means consuming far less of everything, especially of energy. Right now politicians and activists are hyping the BS that there’s some kind of miraculous techno-industrial solution to let us continue our grotesquely inefficient consumption, and magically generate geometrically growing profits/surpluses with steadily falling inputs. Ain’t gonna happen, and so far global CO2 production has done nothing but hit ATHs.
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And honestly the most environmentally friendly solution that you can provide to slow down climate change is actually to be frugal, consume what you really need. The most environment-saving way is not driving an EV but not driving at all or taking public transportation even but walking or biking or staying home and working remotely. During covid, many most heavily polluted cities in the world like Mumbai, India saw blue skies for the first time since God knows when. And many cities saw their pollution level drop by 90+%. That should tell you something.
 
Specterx said:
Taking the ‘climate emergency’ at face value, giving every man, woman, and child in the developed world a 4,000 pound lump of steel and toxic metals is the dumbest f*cking thing imaginable, as far as the environment goes.

True sustainability means consuming far less of everything, especially of energy. Right now politicians and activists are hyping the BS that there’s some kind of miraculous techno-industrial solution to let us continue our grotesquely inefficient consumption, and magically generate geometrically growing profits/surpluses with steadily falling inputs. Ain’t gonna happen, and so far global CO2 production has done nothing but hit ATHs.
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Amen
 
TheDawn said:
And honestly the most environmentally friendly solution that you can provide to slow down climate change is actually to be frugal, consume what you really need. The most environment-saving way is not driving an EV but not driving at all or taking public transportation even but walking or biking or staying home and working remotely. During covid, many most heavily polluted cities in the world like Mumbai, India saw blue skies for the first time since God knows when. And many cities saw their pollution level drop by 90+%. That should tell you something.
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Be realistic. These countries want to advance just like the US did. Gotta pollute to get ahead.
 
Toxic battery waste from disposed ev batteries is far more harmful than co2 from real cars.

EVs suck

There's no revving the engine.

They're for pussies lol
 
I had a Honda Civic hybrid years ago and the massive electric battery failed less than half way through the warranty period. Honda refused to honor the warranty or replace the battery for me and thousands of others. Everyone I've talked to that has taken a trip in an EV has promised it will be their last.
 
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