Hate to be the grim reaper but are looking at a possible depression

Quote from mokwit:

Your average Frenchman has a higher quality of life than your average stressed out American. He is not worried that he will be identified as Low quartile and managed out if he goes home before 7pm. Your average Brit is not plagued by nightmares about medical care costs. Many in Europe resent the way US corporate values have come to dominate the workplace. I am not saying that Socilaism is good or sustainable, or even right, it just makes me wonder when I see Americans attacking anything other then free markets when the negative impact of this on their quakity of life is so obvious. Americans are so against anything that has even a hint of socilaism but they work their butts off for a dream of the "golden years". Just look at a catalogue from the companies that supply living aids for the elderly to see how "golden" those years are. I am not saying US values are bad from a business or national economic survival stanpoint, I am just wondering if they deliver what they are believed to in terms of quality of life and happiness.

The low stressed Frenchman is forced to speak German on occasion...

whereas us over achieving Americans can learn Spanish at our own pace.
 
Quote from commoditiestrdr:

We could see a stock market crash along with the mortgage/banking/real estate crash. I mean how hard is our economy going to get hit it it we have two crashes
No offence, but doom callers & repeat doom callers are not telling us anything new about the economy or the world. Instead what they are really telling us is all about themselves. They are subliminally speaking for themselves, personally that is, and saying 'I haven't made it in life or I don't think I will make it in life and anyhow the world about me is also going to go to hell in a handbasket.'

Agree or disagree?
 
Quote from daddyeaux:

The low stressed Frenchman is forced to speak German on occasion...

whereas us over achieving Americans can learn Spanish at our own pace.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA:p :p :p
 
Quote from Champion:

No offence, but doom callers & repeat doom callers are not telling us anything new about the economy or the world. Instead what they are really telling us is all about themselves. They are subliminally speaking for themselves, personally that is, and saying 'I haven't made it in life or I don't think I will make it in life and anyhow the world about me is also going to go to hell in a handbasket.'

Agree or disagree?

The character you describe exists but you make money being long when you should be long and short when you should be short. I am short, so presumably that makes me a loser. I would actually rather be operating in a bull market, but I just think the economy's drivers have taken more of a shock than is showing up yet. Recent price action may cause me to change my mind over the next few days as things unfold. They used to say with some justification that "there are no 5th avenue mansions built by bears'. Give me a bull market over a bear market anyday. The R:R dynamics of shorting are appalling and once the early bear market easy shorting is over you have grinding ranges.

As someone who was a sales manager I am well aware of the need in the corporate/sales environment for all the positive mental outlook stuff, but it has NO place in the markets. The markets are not a place for this. there are NO half full only glasses in the markets any more than theire are only half empty gleasses, there are just half glasses. In the corporate world objectivity is attacked as negativity, in the markets it is the only viable mindset. PMA has one place in the market, it is used by manipulators to stop the sheep selling before they have finished their dumping. That is not to say we don't use positive thinking as part of our psychology, you won't be resilient enough to carry on trading in the face of the inevitable dissapointments without it. people who trade and run busines successfully are incredibly positive minded super resilient people who know when to be negative e.g looking at the risk of a trade first or the viability of a new business.
 
Quote from Champion:

No offence, but doom callers & repeat doom callers are not telling us anything new about the economy or the world. Instead what they are really telling us is all about themselves. They are subliminally speaking for themselves, personally that is, and saying 'I haven't made it in life or I don't think I will make it in life and anyhow the world about me is also going to go to hell in a handbasket.'

Agree or disagree?

I've known some that got the idea of doomsday stuck in their heads and they stopped even trying... I personally knew one that was so convinced that there would not be medical care for his ailing child after doomsday that he starved her to death, not making this up... He did only 4 years.... Probably that is why anybody that talks about doomsday gets attacks eventually, there are a lot of people that just want to stay in denial where they are comfortable and they lose motivation when they do admit that it can happen. It can happen. Personally I recommend hedging...

Does anybody disagree with me on 1) it can happen 2)hedging is good?
 
Quote from daddyeaux:

The low stressed Frenchman is forced to speak German on occasion...

whereas us over achieving Americans can learn Spanish at our own pace.

Now that is a very good point.
 
I hate to say it but I think this is going to come true.

The bear stearns collapse is not a good sign.

Damn real estate brought bear stearns to it's knees in one week.
 
Quote from IanMacQuaide:

2 weeks ago, a relative's financial planner told her the investments are safer than her bank accounts at BofA.
:eek:

Tell her to log that visit. the lawyers' will want it later.
 
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