Happy "I Have a Dream" Speech Day
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So you're basing your "facts" on what?
The doctrines of the most notorious propagandist in American history > J. Edgar Hoover?
The writings of one of King's buddies who was trying to sell his book (that you bought)?
Even if it were true, and the Doctor King did have extra marital affairs-
Even if he stole the speech from someone else-
Will you still not give him credit for inspiring millions to both seek and grant freedoms?
His entire life was one great big charade. It's all fact. If you'd rather believe the false narrative spun for political spoils, that's your privilege.
What your spewing is exactly like the campus racism charges that turn out to be hoaxes and then the narrative immediately becomes it doesn't really matter that it was a hoax, it just "points out some truths" or something.
And just who are the people that he has inspired to seek and grant freedoms. The millions of people that think they should be given a spot in a university or job because they are black and require affirmative action?
When a black is given a job for affirmative action, it means by definition that a white "need not apply". But that doesn't bother hypocrites who are gaming a system for all the money and power that it can buy.
This is not to disparage MLK as he did some good things, but these are the facts of his rise to fame.
He became a prominent figure during the Montgomery bus boycott after the Rosa Parks incident, which most all are familiar with. The Montgomery Improvement Association decided to elect MLK as their president and spokesman right after the incident, which gained national attention. This in and of itself propelled MLK to national prominance. The rest is history.
What most people don't know is there was someone prior to Rosa Parks. Someone named Claudette Colvin. Ever heard of her? Probably not. She was a 15 year old black girl who also demanded to ride the bus. This happened about 8 months prior to Rosa Parks. Colvin was arrested and became a plaintiff, along with three other women (Aurelia Browder, Susie McDonald, and Mary Louise Smith) in the Browder v Gayle civil action law suit -the law suit that officially ended segregation on the Montgomery bus system. So why wasn't Colvin given any credit. Well she was very poor, pregnant, and dark skinned, so it was decided by the powers that be,(black leadership/civil rights leaders at the time), that she wouldn't make a good role model for the movement. They waited/set up a better opportunity.
The conclusion here is pretty simple. Had they decided to make their move with Colvin rather than Parks, MLK never gets all the attention as he did from speaking in behalf of Parks, and is just another preacher we probably never hear of.
He became a prominent figure during the Montgomery bus boycott after the Rosa Parks incident, which most all are familiar with. The Montgomery Improvement Association decided to elect MLK as their president and spokesman right after the incident, which gained national attention. This in and of itself propelled MLK to national prominance. The rest is history.
What most people don't know is there was someone prior to Rosa Parks. Someone named Claudette Colvin. Ever heard of her? Probably not. She was a 15 year old black girl who also demanded to ride the bus. This happened about 8 months prior to Rosa Parks. Colvin was arrested and became a plaintiff, along with three other women (Aurelia Browder, Susie McDonald, and Mary Louise Smith) in the Browder v Gayle civil action law suit -the law suit that officially ended segregation on the Montgomery bus system. So why wasn't Colvin given any credit. Well she was very poor, pregnant, and dark skinned, so it was decided by the powers that be,(black leadership/civil rights leaders at the time), that she wouldn't make a good role model for the movement. They waited/set up a better opportunity.
The conclusion here is pretty simple. Had they decided to make their move with Colvin rather than Parks, MLK never gets all the attention as he did from speaking in behalf of Parks, and is just another preacher we probably never hear of.
It can also be said that had the Romans decided to not crucify Jesus and instead let him go, he may have likely died an unheard of preacher.
Greatness should never be denied simply because a light was shown on it.
I didn't say he wasn't a great man, he just would have been another unkown great man, like about a million other people we've never heard of who don't get noticed. We might also take note to never confuse greatness with celebrity. Was he great, just a celebrity, little bit of both? No doubt he made his mark and had a tremendous influence, but without the shear dumb luck of being in the right place at the right moment in time, he's just another guy nobody knows or cares about.
I was aware of that Capn.
My address was to those who may read your post, who are fervently looking for reasons to discredit the man's great teachings to humanity.
As usual, you're correct that we should all take the entire scope of the situation into account for consideration.
We should be careful to not overlook the good which he brought about, simply because we base our "facts" on some rumors of his impurities.
Most of us here are human, are we not?
If fhl is above the rest of humanity, and is free of sin, then he is well qualified to dismiss the Doctor King's teachings as phony rubbish.
But if he is a scumbag sinner like the rest of us, then we are free to dismiss his sanctimonious opinions of Doctor King as fecal matter.
I would also think carefully before attributing MLK's role in our human history to any dumb luck.
Did he understand the duties he was to perform may likely bring about a violent end to his life?
Did he step up to the table, regardless of the negative consequences he was to endure, and serve justice to the people?
I never was all that impressed with MLK for a long time, but its hard for me to imagine being black and having to deal with that separate but equal b.s.
That would have really ticked me off, so for me after a bit of reflection it does turn out MLK does deserve respect for being a non violence kind of preacher.
(note.. happy birthday to Tsing as well.)
That would have really ticked me off, so for me after a bit of reflection it does turn out MLK does deserve respect for being a non violence kind of preacher.
(note.. happy birthday to Tsing as well.)
Yes, of course. lol
The left sends an entire caldron of "journalists" to alaska to find any piece of dirt on Palin that can possibly be dug up to discredit everything she has to say, but...
when you are talking about the Great Dr Martin Luther King, you are forbidden from doing the same. It is against all rules of fair play.
He used a phony name, he plagairised all his major works, he obtained his doctorate illegitimately through the plagairism, he stepped out on his wife numerous times....
In light of the above, is it fair to ask if he really believed in the "content of your character" line, or he really would be walking in lockstep today with jesse and al trying to obtain political advantage for blacks through demagoguery? After all, Jesse Jackson was supposedly one of his close associates.
Libtards think a different set of rules apply to them, as evidenced by hoofhead's post. YOU CANNOT INVESTIGATE BLACK LIBERALS, MUCH LESS QUESTION THEIR INTEGRITY. LOL
Meanwhile, anything goes when it comes to conservative politicians.
I was also struck today with just how similar Michael King and Obama are.
Birth certificate problems.
No evidence of ever obtaining a legal name change.
Degrees of questionable authenticity. The head of the poly sci dept at Columbia never heard of Obama back when he was supposed to have been there. We already know the students never saw him.
And of course lastly, nobody is supposed to question it all because ....
he's black and so, so important to humanity in his position. rofl