Hang 'em high

[pattersb]

Quote from kissanmakeup:

then if that is the case then we should demand the freedom of all of the killers who participated in the rwanda genocide and the yugoslavian civil war.
temporary insanity? would temporary insanity apply to a collective action carried by a group of soldiers? would temporary insanity apply to the action of their commanders who tried to hide the evidence?

Yes, indeed. Another nitwit feels compelled to prove their stupidty.

... no futher comments, hers speak for themselves ...

 

[kissanmakeup]

Quote from pattersb:

Yes, indeed. Another nitwit feels compelled to prove their stupidty.

... no futher comments, hers speak for themselves ...

of course...what else would you say.
you guys are so predictable it is becoming boring.

 

[riserburn]

Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

I've always found it rather amusing that the people who have never served are the first ones to throw the kids under the bus as some kind of political expediency....... One must have sworn the oath and taken up arms before he has any creditability with me. It’s very easy to run your suck about something when you know absolutely nothing about it.

Amen.

Quote from kissassandwearmakeup

i agree with everything you said.

For the life of me, I have no idea why. In another thread on this subject, you wanted to throw these boys to the Hague. Have you sobered up or what?

 

[james_bond_3rd]

Quote from jzlucas:

A touching ending to your post. Sounds like YOUR the goof on the corner with his skateboard in hand.

Sounds like YOU'RE! Probably failed the school too, and learned hate from your church (now that's a proper use of YOUR).

 

[kissanmakeup]

Quote from riserburn:

Amen.


For the life of me, I have no idea why. In another thread on this subject, you wanted to throw these boys to the Hague. Have you sobered up or what?

obviously, you haven't read my post to a guy by the name of sam.
for the particular soldiers who committed the crime; they should pay the ultimate price including humiliating them under the watchful eyes of the whole world before executing the punishment against them.
for the rest of the kids, i feel sorry for them for i know the circumistances that FORCED these poor kids to enlist in the first place.
the biggest criminal in my openion is the coward hiding in the pentagon and the the other coward who cant even use a shot gun.

 

[jzlucas]

Quote from james_bond_3rd:

Sounds like YOU'RE! Probably failed the school too, and learned hate from your church (now that's a proper use of YOUR).

LOL! You got me on the proper use of "your/ you're". My bad. That's about all you got though!

 

[james_bond_3rd]

Quote from jzlucas:

LOL! You got me on the proper use of "your/ you're". My bad. That's about all you got though!

Glad to be of help.

 

[Trader5287]

Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

I've always found it rather amusing that the people who have never served are the first ones to throw the kids under the bus as some kind of political expediency.

I say kids because that's exactly what they are. The mean age of infantry squad is 19.6 years of age. A squad leader may be 21-23. A platoon CO may be 21-25. A company Co maybe 28-30...and the Pvt's and PFC's in the squads are 17-19.

This squad from 3/1 may have in fact done some heinous shit. We shall see when all the facts come out. They may in fact have done something that will confine them and damn their souls forever. We don't know. What you can be sure of is that no blow hard on this board knows anything at all about the kids involved and the pressures that they were under in and out of combat.

When they're all cammied up in their deuce gear and have a full load of kevlar and a full combat ammo load and packing other and extraneous shit.....they look like John Wayne. But in actually they are the kid down the street. They're just as confused as the goof standing on the corner with his skateboard in hand. But they're held to an infinitely higher standard due to who they represent.

One must have sworn the oath and taken up arms before he has any creditability with me. It’s very easy to run your suck about something when you know absolutely nothing about it.

Very well said. I’ll take the other side of this though. Give your men a good dinner. Then hang them at first light because they're nothing different than mobsters or gang people avenging the killing of a boss. In fact, they're lower than that level - they went and killed the other guy's wife and kids. Then they lied about it and disgraced the service and country.

Now about running suck. I don't need to know what they go through anymore than I need to know about street life, grueling poverty, or troubled family or any of the other jive violent criminals spit up to explain why. None of that is a justification or defense to murder, let alone mass murder, in any state here. Neither is their age, motive, or uniform. Might somehow be in the military -- but not in the US. So I don’t have to have emerged from among the military to judge the military and throw them under the bus.

These guys need to be separated from us fast - one way or another. They should be charged, confined outside the US, then tried. Maybe they walk - maybe they don't. I said elsewhere any cop would arrest based on the Murtha and Time revelations to date. And based on arrest alone, they'd have near 0 chance of bail for something outrageous like this done in the US. But that's here. See, I’m in the crowd that wants these people to go away along with anyone remotely like them. I don't want loose canons, or short fuse John Wayne, or ptsd among us and our families. Slip up back here and they'll be removed ruthlessly by a whole new generation of judges and prosecutors is what I see coming - again.

Does this sound familiar to you? It should.

 

[Dr. Zhivodka]

Christ almighty...you people are like talking to a bag of hammers.

I may be mistaken but I believe in every post I've made on this subject I've said that if they're proven guilty they’ll be punished. Right now they are innocent.

Please, get this straight once and for all. There are two concurrent on going investigations. If NCIS finds sufficient evidence they will be charged. And if they are charged then they will go to Court Marital. And if their Court Martial(s) agrees with that evidence of the charge then they will be convicted. And if they are convicted they will at best do very hard time, at worst they get death. And it won't be any bullshit normal death row conviction with an endless stream of taxpayer funded appeals. It will be swift and sure.

On the above you can rest assured.

However, I'm quite relieved and I thank my personal gods that these men will not be judged by the likes of you and some of the other knee-jerk reactionary’s whose standard of proof is a tabloid magazine article and a raving congressman.

Quote from Trader5287:

These guys need to be separated from us fast - one way or another. They should be charged, confined outside the US, then tried. Maybe they walk - maybe they don't. I said elsewhere any cop would arrest based on the Murtha and Time revelations to date. And based on arrest alone, they'd have near 0 chance of bail for something outrageous like this done in the US. But that's here. See, I’m in the crowd that wants these people to go away along with anyone remotely like them. I don't want loose canons, or short fuse John Wayne, or ptsd among us and our families. Slip up back here and they'll be removed ruthlessly by a whole new generation of judges and prosecutors is what I see coming - again.

Does this sound familiar to you? It should.

No.... I have no fucking idea what you’re talking about.



All Neo-cons must die.

 

[saxon]

Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

I've always found it rather amusing that the people who have never served are the first ones to throw the kids under the bus as some kind of political expediency.

I say kids because that's exactly what they are. The mean age of infantry squad is 19.6 years of age. What you can be sure of is that no blow hard on this board knows anything at all about the kids involved and the pressures that they were under in and out of combat.

When they're all cammied up in their deuce gear and have a full load of kevlar and a full combat ammo load and packing other and extraneous shit.....they look like John Wayne. But in actually they are the kid down the street.

just "the kid down the street" having a bit of fun.

riiiight...

what town did YOU grow up in??

Soldiers charged in Iraq rape-murder case

BAGHDAD (Reuters), Sun Jul 9 - Five U.S. soldiers were charged in a rape and multiple murder case that has outraged Iraqis, as documents obtained by Reuters on Sunday showed the rape victim was aged 14, and not over 20 as U.S. officials have said.

Days after former private Steven Green was charged as a civilian in a U.S. court with rape and four murders, four serving soldiers were charged with the same offences, the U.S. military said in statement. It did not name the troops.

Another soldier, apparently a sixth member of Green's former unit in the 502nd Infantry Regiment, was charged on Saturday with dereliction of duty for not reporting the crime in March.

All five were charged with conspiring with Green, accused by U.S. prosecutors of going with three others to a house near the checkpoint they were manning outside Mahmudiya, near Baghdad, and of killing a couple and their two daughters. The five could face the death penalty.