Hamas must be eliminated

ipatent said:
The Israelis are quite adept at lying or twisting the facts.
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Are you saying you only trust the Hamas spokesperson...You don't think Hamas has a survival motive in stopping the fighting....Of course nothing is stopping them from laying down their weapons or releasing the hostages, both would end the fighting

Department of Defense provides insight into how Hamas uses hospitals as fortresses in Gaza: 'clear evidence'
'They have tunnels underneath these hospitals,' Pentagon spokesperson says
 
Mercor said:
Are you saying you only trust the Hamas spokesperson...You don't think Hamas has a survival motive in stopping the fighting....Of course nothing is stopping them from laying down their weapons or releasing the hostages, both would end the fighting

Department of Defense provides insight into how Hamas uses hospitals as fortresses in Gaza: 'clear evidence'
'They have tunnels underneath these hospitals,' Pentagon spokesperson says
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That wasn't a "hamas spokesperson" saying that, it was the Hospital Director despite France24 trying to obfuscate things. Do I trust the person running the Hospital under siege as to how long fuel would last in his generators and conditions by which Israel imposed getting fuel over what the IDF says? You betcha.

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Mercor said:
Are you saying you only trust the Hamas spokesperson...You don't think Hamas has a survival motive in stopping the fighting....Of course nothing is stopping them from laying down their weapons or releasing the hostages, both would end the fighting

Department of Defense provides insight into how Hamas uses hospitals as fortresses in Gaza: 'clear evidence'
'They have tunnels underneath these hospitals,' Pentagon spokesperson says
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and yes, terrorist will be terrorists (if the "WMDs in Iraq") intelligence happens to be true.:

Kirby underscored that Hamas' actions in the hospitals did not lessen Israel's responsibility to protect civilians, but acknowledged that it made Israel's efforts to root out Hamas more complicated.

"To be clear, we do not support striking a hospital from the air. We do not want to see a firefight in a hospital where innocent people, helpless people, sick people are simply trying to get the medical care they deserve," he said.

"We have been clear on multiple occasions - Hamas actions do not lessen Israel's responsibilities to protect civilians in Gaza, and this is something we're going to continue to have an active conversation with our counterparts about," he added.
 
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ipatent said:
I condemn the October 7th attacks and the hostage taking, but not Hamas as a whole. I condemn Israel for keeping Palestinians in what amounts to concentration camps for generations.
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So tell me, what "amounts" to a "concentration camp". Are you inferring a moral equivalence between Hitler's Dachau and the West Bank or Gaza? Your terminology is extremely vague and seems intentionally incendiary. We just need the necessary university freshmen to swallow it wholesale. Do you have any pictures of these camps? Do you have any idea of what Gaza looks like?

So you condemn a Hamas tactic, and would like to disconnect what they did (the tactic) from what they are?

You would like to return Hamas back to the status quo of government of Gaza and honorable freedom fighters of the sacred resistance? And even though they have been the government of Gaza for 16 years, you are saying Israel is to blame for making Gaza into an "amount" of a "concentration camp" and not the effects of Hamas policy, grift, and actions against Israel? This, even though Gaza is the world's highest per capital welfare state in the world, mostly from Western charity?

If you can't condemn Hamas can you at least condemn the blue haired Western leftist in this video starting at minute 8:35. ?

 
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gwb-trading said:
The left-wing Cancel Culture by which they want to eliminate people from their jobs, community, and from being heard is the very foundation of "forced disappearance" as a policy. When leftists run governments they work to silence any voices that object to their policies; this can be seen in their bringing of politically driven charges against opponents to using leaks to the media in attempts to ruin people.

Disappearing people is simply the next step in "cancelling" when a fully (not moderate) left-wing government is in power.

The bumbling Trump administration is just a minor league example for what will occur when an extreme left-wing administration (which is driven & "competent") is placed in charge.
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gwb-trading said:
University President about to lose his job for supporting "Cancel Culture"...


Wichita State president’s job on line as former board member says cancellation of Ivanka Trump speech puts Koch money at risk
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/w...ump-speech-puts-koch-money-at-risk-2020-06-10

Some donors are pushing the state higher education board in Kansas to fire Wichita State University’s president after he canceled a virtual speech by Ivanka Trump for its technical school’s graduation.

The Kansas Board of Regents scheduled a special meeting Wednesday to discuss what it called “personnel matters.” Its staff did not say more, but the meeting comes only two days after a former board member from Wichita said the regents should ask for President Jay Golden’s resignation.

Golden canceled Trump’s speech after students and faculty protested. Students staged an impromptu rally Wednesday to support Golden.

Steve Clark, the former regent seeking Golden’s ouster, sent a letter Monday to board members saying Golden’s decision to cancel the speech by President Donald Trump’s daughter threatens a multimillion-dollar relationship with Koch Industries, the vast conglomerate led by billionaire and conservative political donor Charles Koch, the Wichita Eagle reports. A Koch Industries spokeswoman said Wednesday that financial commitments to the university are being honored and that it doesn’t tie funding to university employment actions.

Clark is the chairman and CEO of a Wichita investment firm who served as chairman of search committees for both Golden and his predecessor, John Bardo. Golden became president in January, after Bardo died in March 2019.

Clark told the regents that officials from Koch Industries and several longtime donors and supporters are “very upset and quite vocal in their decisions to disavow any further support.” He said canceling Trump’s speech damaged the school’s reputation with some high-profile donors.

“These relationships can only be restored by Dr. Golden’s departure,” he wrote the regents. “I would strongly encourage you not to let this linger.”

Steve Feilmeier, Koch Industries’ executive vice president and chief financial officer, said he’s been asked to serve on the Wichita State Foundation board and how the speech controversy is resolved will “weigh heavily” on his decision.

The university has said Koch Industries and its associated foundations have spent or pledged to spend more than $15 million there in the past seven years. Company spokeswoman Jessica Koehn said it respects “the university’s independence” in making employment decisions.

But she also said Koch Industries believes canceling speakers “cuts off the chance to engage, debate, and criticize.”

Wichita State has 14,000 students, including some 3,000 at its technical school, and is home to a national institute on aviation research. Parts of Wichita and its suburbs are politically conservative, and Donald Trump carried the county in 2016 by 18 percentage points. Ivanka Trump visited WSU Tech last fall to promote its training programs.

The university announced Thursday that she would give a virtual speech for WSU Tech’s graduation and canceled it hours later after a professor’s open letter of protest garnered nearly 500 signatures.

Days earlier, police under federal command in Washington used tear gas to force back a peaceful protests of George Floyd’s death in Minneapolis while detained by police. The police action allowed the president to walk to a church near the White House and pose with a Bible, accompanied by his daughter. The president also threatened to use the military to quell violence.

WSU Tech President Sheree Utash later apologized, calling the timing of the announcement of Ivanka Trump’s speech “insensitive.” Golden has said that the university is committed to diversity and that he canceled the speech to avoid a distraction from celebrating the students.

Ivanka Trump responded by tweeting a link to her remarks and saying universities should be “bastions of free speech.”

“Cancel culture and viewpoint discrimination are antithetical to academia,” she said.

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, a former Wichita-area congressman, called the cancellation “shameful,” adding in a statement: “The losers here are freedom of thought, the students, and the central idea of universities as places of tolerance and learning.”
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gwb-trading said:
All Hamas terrorist supporters must be given the heave-ho.

Professor who praised Hamas ‘resistance fighters’ on gliders no longer employed by Emory University
https://www.foxnews.com/media/profe...s-gliders-no-longer-employed-emory-university
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Why The Middle East Won’t Accept Palestinian Refugees

So in summary from Quora...
Why is Egypt so adamantly opposed to allowing refugees from Gaza to escape the city, I thought they cared about the Palestinians?

They care about the Palestinians in theory, as Muslim neighbors, but Egypt isn’t going to let that blind them to reality.

Unlike seemingly everyone on this site, Egypt bothered to pick up a history book.

Jordan allowed Palestinian refugees. They tried to set up a state-within-a-state, attempted to assassinate the King, and got kicked back out.

Lebanon accepted the Palestinian refugees that had just been kicked out of Jordan, Those same refugees started a ten-year civil war.

Kuwait accepted Palestinian refugees. They then helped Saddam Hussain take over.

Egypt has no desire to be next on the list of countries dealing with open rebellion or terrorism after letting in refugees from Palestine, especially if they risk Hamas sneaking in with them.
 
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IDF soldiers recover body of Hamas hostage found near Al-Shifa Hospital
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/november-16-israel-hamas-war

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Israeli Defense Forces say they found the body of a hostage taken in Hamas's Oct. 7 attack on Thursday.

Israeli forces say they found Yehudit Weiss' body in a building adjacent to the Al-Shifa Hospital, which Israel says Hamas had been using as a headquarters until early this week. The IDF did not offer any details about Weiss beyond her name, but noted that her family has been contacted.

Soldiers searching the building say they also found military equipment including Kalashnikov rifles and RPG's inside.

Weiss was one of roughly 240 people taken hostage by Hamas duirng its Oct. 7 massacre in Israel. She is now among a small number of hostages confirmed to have been killed since Israel's war on Hamas began.
 
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