Hamas must be eliminated
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Nobody's denying Israelis were killed by Hamas in Gaza. Nice rewriting of history though.
two can play that twitter game. Does it make it so? You may as well be quoting Hamas if you take IDF's claims at face value.
I'd expect there to be nothing left but shrapnel from an artillary shell but some from a rocket so this would support the Gaza claim that there was nothing left to identify and they were not just hiding the rocket remains. That said, the fins might have blown off in the sky of the thing ruptured and just the warhead landed.
The thing had a distinct sound which can probably be matched easily. What the camera/observer hears varies on distance.
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Governors across the U.S. from both parties are supporting Israel. Here is our N.C. Governor, Roy Cooper.
'Israel's right to defend itself' | Gov. Cooper voices his support for Israel
Cooper's post says in part, "Hamas cannot be allowed to continue its reign of terror that also hurts the Palestinian people in many ways."
https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/l...tics/275-b4e2db05-7212-4a3f-bc6b-f4cb9a5bd8a6
'Israel's right to defend itself' | Gov. Cooper voices his support for Israel
Cooper's post says in part, "Hamas cannot be allowed to continue its reign of terror that also hurts the Palestinian people in many ways."
https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/l...tics/275-b4e2db05-7212-4a3f-bc6b-f4cb9a5bd8a6
Foreign Reporters Burst Into Tears During IDF Screening of Hamas’ Atrocities
The screening reportedly clips that showed beheadings, torture, murder, and more.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/israel-holds-screening-for-foreign-press-that-show-hamas-atrocities
Israel on Monday invited 200 foreign journalists to view horrific footage and images from Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack on the country, with attending journalists reporting that some colleagues burst into tears as they viewed clips of beheadings, torture, murder, and more.
Israeli officials said the graphic screening, hosted at a Tel Aviv military base, was necessary to fight against what they claim are lies pushed by Hamas that are akin to a “Holocaust denial-like phenomenon.”
Recording was not permitted inside the screening, reportedly out of respect for the families of the slain and maimed Israelis captured on camera. A single clip was permitted to leave the base, which appeared to show an Israeli driver and passenger being gunned down by Hamas fighters with rifles.
That scene ends with a Hamas fighter’s body cam showing two bodies slouched over in the car.
The Times of Israel reported that the compilation of apparent atrocities totaled 43 minutes.
The Guardian, an English newspaper, reported that the clips included the killing of children and decapitation of Israelis. The footage was gathered from security cameras, body cameras, vehicle dashboard cameras, social media accounts, and from mobile phones, which “left some reporters in tears.”
Jotam Confino, a British journalist in attendance, shared a horrifying list of things included in the screening. He described watching clips of an man being beheaded with a shovel, an unarmed father being killed by a grenade as he sheltered with his weeping young sons, and a young girl—aged between 7 to 9—being shot dead.
In an audio recording played for the press, Confino reported that a Hamas militant called his parents to brag about his killing, saying, “I killed 10 Jews with my own hands. I’m using the dead Jewish woman’s phone to call you now.”
The Guardian reported that a clip showed an Israeli woman checking a burned woman’s corpse to see if it was a family member. The dead woman’s dress “was pulled up to her waist and her underpants had been removed,” the paper wrote. Still images reportedly showed slain Israelis spread across highways, having been killed and their cars reportedly stolen.
In remarks following the screening, Major Gen. Michael Edelstein of the Israel Defense Forces said that the military has evidence of “Iranian involvement” in the multi-front Oct. 7 attack—though he said he “cannot elaborate” on the claims.
“You definitely can see evidence, we have evidence of Iranian involvement,” he said, according to British news network Sky News. “I cannot elaborate too much, but you can understand what I mean. Not just about equipment but more than this.”
The attack left 1,400 Israelis dead and over 200 others kidnapped, Israeli authorities said. A vast majority of those killed were civilians, including women, children, and the elderly.
Israel’s death toll has remained largely stagnant since the surprise attack. Air strikes have taken a toll on Hamas and Palestinians in Gaza, however, where authorities claim its death toll had eclipsed 5,000 people by Monday.
Life for a majority of civilians in Gaza has been completely uprooted. More than half of its population have been displaced in Israel’s retaliatory bombing, creating a humanitarian crisis as Palestinians are desperately low on drinking water, food and medicine, the United Nations said Monday.
The screening reportedly clips that showed beheadings, torture, murder, and more.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/israel-holds-screening-for-foreign-press-that-show-hamas-atrocities
Israel on Monday invited 200 foreign journalists to view horrific footage and images from Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack on the country, with attending journalists reporting that some colleagues burst into tears as they viewed clips of beheadings, torture, murder, and more.
Israeli officials said the graphic screening, hosted at a Tel Aviv military base, was necessary to fight against what they claim are lies pushed by Hamas that are akin to a “Holocaust denial-like phenomenon.”
Recording was not permitted inside the screening, reportedly out of respect for the families of the slain and maimed Israelis captured on camera. A single clip was permitted to leave the base, which appeared to show an Israeli driver and passenger being gunned down by Hamas fighters with rifles.
That scene ends with a Hamas fighter’s body cam showing two bodies slouched over in the car.
The Times of Israel reported that the compilation of apparent atrocities totaled 43 minutes.
The Guardian, an English newspaper, reported that the clips included the killing of children and decapitation of Israelis. The footage was gathered from security cameras, body cameras, vehicle dashboard cameras, social media accounts, and from mobile phones, which “left some reporters in tears.”
Jotam Confino, a British journalist in attendance, shared a horrifying list of things included in the screening. He described watching clips of an man being beheaded with a shovel, an unarmed father being killed by a grenade as he sheltered with his weeping young sons, and a young girl—aged between 7 to 9—being shot dead.
In an audio recording played for the press, Confino reported that a Hamas militant called his parents to brag about his killing, saying, “I killed 10 Jews with my own hands. I’m using the dead Jewish woman’s phone to call you now.”
The Guardian reported that a clip showed an Israeli woman checking a burned woman’s corpse to see if it was a family member. The dead woman’s dress “was pulled up to her waist and her underpants had been removed,” the paper wrote. Still images reportedly showed slain Israelis spread across highways, having been killed and their cars reportedly stolen.
In remarks following the screening, Major Gen. Michael Edelstein of the Israel Defense Forces said that the military has evidence of “Iranian involvement” in the multi-front Oct. 7 attack—though he said he “cannot elaborate” on the claims.
“You definitely can see evidence, we have evidence of Iranian involvement,” he said, according to British news network Sky News. “I cannot elaborate too much, but you can understand what I mean. Not just about equipment but more than this.”
The attack left 1,400 Israelis dead and over 200 others kidnapped, Israeli authorities said. A vast majority of those killed were civilians, including women, children, and the elderly.
Israel’s death toll has remained largely stagnant since the surprise attack. Air strikes have taken a toll on Hamas and Palestinians in Gaza, however, where authorities claim its death toll had eclipsed 5,000 people by Monday.
Life for a majority of civilians in Gaza has been completely uprooted. More than half of its population have been displaced in Israel’s retaliatory bombing, creating a humanitarian crisis as Palestinians are desperately low on drinking water, food and medicine, the United Nations said Monday.
Atrocities against civilians in most wars (e.g. World War II, Civil War, War of 1812, French Revolutionary wars, and many others) typically continue when many are in denial because many in the general public do not see the atrocities against civilians due to respect for the families until it's too late when someone decides to do something so extreme (outrageous) to end the war.
Unfortunately, this type of shielding the public also helps to blame the enemy as being barbaric.
Today, with social media, people use social media to feed their emotions about war even when they're nowhere near the war nor have any family, relatives, or friends involved in the war.
Civilians die in urban warfare regardless of who started it. It's a reality of today's modern war although atrocities against civilians are similar to wars that occurred a few hundred years ago.
I hate war, it births a new type of ethnic & religious hatred. It changes people forever...polarizes everyone...globally. I've seen such growing up in a military family, reading the journals/diaries of family members going back 4 generations, serving myself, and then living abroad as a civilian for a few months in areas that needed humanitarian help...it's ugly.
Globally, we lost our humanity a few hundred years ago when countries wanted to expand their control & wealth.
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Let's see how the leaders of Hamas live in luxury while the people of Gaza starve.
Photos from 2014.
Private jets, restaurants, luxury hotels: The good life of senior Hamas officials
Hamas leaders are facing criticism inside and outside of Gaza for enjoying a lavish lifestyle while Gazans suffer.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4548202,00.html
Photos from 2014.
Private jets, restaurants, luxury hotels: The good life of senior Hamas officials
Hamas leaders are facing criticism inside and outside of Gaza for enjoying a lavish lifestyle while Gazans suffer.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4548202,00.html