Halftime in America

Quote from Brass:

Surely you can see the appeal among those who wish to minimize their cerebral mileage. Wear and tear, and all that. Trickle down doesn't require thinking or facts, because those serve as hurdles to be overcome. Supply side is all about faith and the chanting of psalms about invisible hands and other supernatural forces. It's all really quite magical. You should try it: close your eyes and believe.

To bad you know facts to the contrary because I showed them to you.

I showed you on another thread recently that after tax cuts, tax revenues went up.
 
Quote from jem:

To bad you know facts to the contrary because I showed them to you.

I showed you on another thread recently that after tax cuts, tax revenues went up.
Not quite, Houdini. You told me to look at only one hand while ignoring the other. Doesn't work that way. I corrected you, but you resorted to the equivalent of closing your eyes and chanting:

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The facts were, tax cuts happened and soon thereafter revenues went up. Nothing you brought up changed those facts.

You tried to bring up models as counter arguments and you did not even realize they were just models.


Quote from Brass:

Not quite, Houdini. You told me to look at only one hand while ignoring the other. Doesn't work that way. I corrected you, but you resorted to the equivalent of chanting:

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The facts were, tax cuts happened and soon thereafter revenues went up. Nothing you brought up changed those facts.
 
Quote from jem:

...The facts were, tax cuts happened and soon thereafter revenues went up. Nothing you brought up changed those facts.
I thought we left that floor perfectly clean. Why do you insist on being used to clean it again? And those aren't sausage links from the other thread, jem. You've been eviscerated.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...8&highlight=jem+tax+cuts+revenues#post3428058

http://www.slate.com/articles/busin...x_cuts_ever_increase_government_revenues.html

'Nuff said.
 
The Laffer Curve and the Kimel Curve

Optimal tax rate is 65% according to the model. Models are never perfect but they're better than FOXNews.

When Laffer himself was on CNBC last year, he even said tax cuts don't produce more revenue.

This is yet but another characteristic of the republican brain, it will reject reality in favor of whatever it wants to believe.
 
Quote from Brass:

I thought we left that floor perfectly clean. Why do you insist on being used to clean it again? And those aren't sausage links from the other thread, jem. You've been eviscerated.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...8&highlight=jem+tax+cuts+revenues#post3428058

http://www.slate.com/articles/busin...x_cuts_ever_increase_government_revenues.html

'Nuff said.


you still suffer some kind of comprehension problem. You cite threads which prove I am correct.

your quote shows that revenues went up after the kennedy and Mellon tax cuts... but revenues went up less than predicted by some leftist model.

..

here is your clue...

"Both the Kennedy and Mellon tax-cut packages actually lowered overall revenue, relative to a baseline where the tax cuts did not happen."

You see "baseline where tax cuts did not happen"?

The tax cuts did happen so that "baseline" was in someone's made up model....





here is the quote you just cited...
"...Both the Kennedy and Mellon tax-cut packages actually lowered overall revenue, relative to a baseline where the tax cuts did not happen. They just increased some receipts from richer families. Take a Congressional Budget Office analysis of the Kennedy-era cuts. No studies "showed that the increased economic activity generated by the tax cut raised revenues and lowered countercyclical transfer payments enough to make the tax-rate reductions self-financing," it wrote in 1978. "Instead, the models showed a net increase in the federal deficit, after three years, of $5 billion to $13 billion," versus models where the tax cuts never took effect. Shorthand: The tax cuts did pay for themselves a little bit by inducing growth, but not nearly enough to pay for themselves entirely..."
 
Quote from Brass:

Surely you can see the appeal among those who wish to minimize their cerebral mileage. Wear and tear, and all that. Trickle down doesn't require thinking or facts, because those serve as hurdles to be overcome. Supply side is all about faith and the chanting of psalms about invisible hands and other supernatural forces. It's all really quite magical. You should try it: close your eyes and believe.

Intellectual argument? Maybe you could underline the intellectual parts in the future. Just for us "righties".
 
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Not very politically correct now is it?

I love it!
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

Instead of the stupid Clint Eastwood commercial that appeared during the Super Bowl, this is what should have been shown.

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Nice vid Tsing
 
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