haha A flood killed the dinasours?

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If you're going call natural circumstances - chance, then anyone can show how the universe runs on "chance".

There is science which proves natural circumstances - "chance" happens in Evolution. destroyer was being honest, not trying to pretend there was equivalent science to prove origins.

Whereas you being deceitful , try to drag up your own personal version of fantasy science after having altered what one particular scientist said. You clearly have no scientific brain.

This thread's OP is the same old outdated creationist wet dream.
Because science works, people must always choose without thinking, a giant cloud goblin called God is the ultimate magical Cosmic Creator, because the Bible Book of Magical Spells says so. Even in the face of any other explanations whatsoever no matter how compelling.

Hard not to smile - the creationists' dilema in the 21st century. Natural conditions or a sky wizard.
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You are such a well written snake.

Try answering the question

1. I did not ask if the universe runs on chance... I asked if there was enough time and matter for chance to create what we are currently living in.

If you had even half a brain you would know why your spew was non sense. .

2. Then if you believe there was enough time and matter to create all this randomly... the next question is given all the fine tunings in this universe is there any chance we got here by chance.


1... A real scientists would answer the first question as probably not... or no way...

2. The second answer is -

Bernard Carr is an astronomer at Queen Mary University, London. ...

But what it comes down to is that there are these physical constants that can’t be explained. It seems clear that there is fine tuning, and you either need a tuner, who chooses the constants so that we arise, or you need a multiverse, and then we have to be in one of the universes where the constants are right for life.”



http://www.philosophypress.co.uk/?p=137
 
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Ha! I didn't even notice that `til you posted. Dina Sours, LOL.
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lol late night. I've been doing that a lot lately.

Anyways, regardless anyone arguing against creation and thinks that some big explosion created us needs their head examined. The chances of that are a billion times less likely than creation.

Anywho, not here to make a scene so that's all i'm going to say :).
 
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But what it comes down to is that there are these physical constants that can’t be explained. It seems clear that there is fine tuning, and you either need a tuner, who chooses the constants so that we arise, or you need a multiverse, and then we have to be in one of the universes where the constants are right for life.”
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Exactly. I take the firm opinion of a tuner (God). For some reason that whole concept seems to escape people. :confused:
 
Quote from jem:

You are such a well written snake.

Try answering the question

1. I did not ask if the universe runs on chance... I asked if there was enough time and matter for chance to create what we are currently living in.

If you had even half a brain you would know why your spew was non sense. .

2. Then if you believe there was enough time and matter to create all this randomly... the next question is given all the fine tunings in this universe is there any chance we got here by chance.


1... A real scientists would answer the first question as probably not... or no way...

2. The second answer is -

Bernard Carr is an astronomer at Queen Mary University, London. ...

But what it comes down to is that there are these physical constants that can’t be explained. It seems clear that there is fine tuning, and you either need a tuner, who chooses the constants so that we arise, or you need a multiverse, and then we have to be in one of the universes where the constants are right for life.”



http://www.philosophypress.co.uk/?p=137
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ok so you think it's down to multiverses or a sky wizard.
 
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Quote from jem:

1... A real scientists would answer the first question as probably not... or no way...
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A scientists can be a christian but a christian cannot be a scientist.

Christians:
Let their beliefs father their science.
Their faith to father their thinking,
And wishes to father their facts.
 
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Jem, why would the god design this way?
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" Here, I highlight several outlandish features of the human genome that defy notions of ID by a caring cognitive agent. These range from de novo mutational glitches that collectively kill or maim countless individuals (including embryos and fetuses)..."

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/05/04/0914609107.short?rss=1
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Its too easy for a biologist with a phd to tell me something which I can not counter. I would have to go back and read alot to start having a truly informed debate on biology.

but I am do have a fair bit of physics in my background.... over 20 years ago. ....

Perhaps you can explain why many top physicists now say this..

Bernard Carr is an astronomer at Queen Mary University, London. ...

But what it comes down to is that there are these physical constants that can’t be explained. It seems clear that there is fine tuning, and you either need a tuner, who chooses the constants so that we arise, or you need a multiverse, and then we have to be in one of the universes where the constants are right for life.”



http://www.philosophypress.co.uk/?p=137
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

A scientists can be a christian but a christian cannot be a scientist.

First of all that is a illogical... and untrue for the majority of christians.

However we do know anyone who says they Know there is no God... that person is not a scientist.
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