H1N1 Black Swan? CDC Says 40% in US May Contract H1N1; Hundreds of Thousands May Die

jem · Jul 31, 2009

I heard sanjay gupta on cnn saying he did not know if it was natural.

that set off alarm bells.

where did it come from?

achilles28 · Jul 31, 2009

Quote from Scataphagos:

If that's the case, we should RIOT! If mandated, could be (likely?) to be a mechanism to cull the population!!

This is AMERICA, damnit! Why should someone be imprisoned if choosing to not take a vaccine?

What will it take for Americans to stand up against government abuse.. even tyranny?

Government has no authority under the Constitution to force vaccinations. Doesn't mean they won't try it. Just like FEMA disarmed citizens in New Orleans.

FOX news is talking mass quarantines, and a readied Northcom to "assist". Could get ugly. Lets hope it fizzles out before that.

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trendlover · Jul 31, 2009

Quote from jem:

I heard sanjay gupta on cnn saying he did not know if it was natural.

that set off alarm bells.

where did it come from?

This is what is said from Adrian Gibbs a researcher.
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Gibbs said his analysis supports research by scientists including Richard Webby, a virologist at St. Jude Childrenâs Research Hospital in Memphis, who found the new strain is the product of two distinct lineages of influenza that have circulated among swine in North America and Europe for more than a decade.

In addition, Gibbs said his research found the rate of genetic mutation in the new virus was about three times faster than that of the most closely related viruses found in pigs, suggesting it evolved outside of swine.

Gene Evolution

âWhatever speeded up the evolution of these genes happened at least seven or eight years ago, so one wonders, why hasnât it been found?â Gibbs said today.
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So he is saying the virus mutates very fast compared to virus from pigs that are related to this swine virus. And he questions why no one after 8 year can find what cause this fast mutations if they can look at animals for the answer. That is why he think it is possible for a lab made virus by a mistake.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=afrdATVXPEAk

ByLoSellHi · Jul 31, 2009

Quote from trendlover:

This is what is said from Adrian Gibbs a researcher.
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Gibbs said his analysis supports research by scientists including Richard Webby, a virologist at St. Jude Childrenâs Research Hospital in Memphis, who found the new strain is the product of two distinct lineages of influenza that have circulated among swine in North America and Europe for more than a decade.

In addition, Gibbs said his research found the rate of genetic mutation in the new virus was about three times faster than that of the most closely related viruses found in pigs, suggesting it evolved outside of swine.

Gene Evolution

âWhatever speeded up the evolution of these genes happened at least seven or eight years ago, so one wonders, why hasnât it been found?â Gibbs said today.
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So he is saying the virus mutates very fast compared to virus from pigs that are related to this swine virus. And he questions why no one after 8 year can find what cause this fast mutations if they can look at animals for the answer. That is why he think it is possible for a lab made virus by a mistake.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=afrdATVXPEAk

If true, this would be a bombshell in more ways than one.

trendlover · Jul 31, 2009

Quote from ByLoSellHi:

If true, this would be a bombshell in more ways than one.

Is man made virus more dangerous than a natural virus? It is still a virus that maybe is nothing to panic about. But that researcher from Australia think that if it is a man made virus, it was not man made to hurt people, but a human error.

Maverickz · Jul 31, 2009

Africanized Honey Bees (aka Killer Bees) was also human error.

If this is a man made virus, and considered a "mistake", one has to ask what were they trying to make? What good could ever come of a rapidly mutating virus with a relatively high infection rate?

trendlover · Jul 31, 2009

Quote from Maverickz:

Africanized Honey Bees (aka Killer Bees) was also human error.

If this is a man made virus, and considered a "mistake", one has to ask what were they trying to make? What good could ever come of a rapidly mutating virus with a relatively high infection rate?

The researcher said he think maybe the virus "accidentely evolved" from eggs scientist and drugmaker use to make vaccines. That is his hypothesis.

Mr Pain · Jul 31, 2009

Quote from trendlover:

The researcher said he think maybe the virus "accidentely evolved" from eggs scientist and drugmaker use to make vaccines. That is his hypothesis.

Most of the world thinks the CIA created AIDS. AIDS has since been traced back to the 30s but that didn't change peoples minds.