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[Bogan7]

If your conclusions are true then Sorry and the US is fine why? They may have melting permafrost but much of the US maybe uninhabitable not sure that is a great position to be in.

 

[1000]

Quote from Bogan7:

If your conclusions are true then Sorry and the US is fine why? They may have melting permafrost but much of the US maybe uninhabitable not sure that is a great position to be in.

I agree. This is a situation that does and will affect everyone.

This is my personal view:

The US is in a more commanding position. Reason being, that it is one of the largest consumers of oil and gas. Now we also have India and China (but can they go to other sources of fuel? that is debatable)

So what?

1. Use of fossil fuels is possibly related to global warming. Although global warming could be a natural physical phenomenon; we don't know.
2. However, we have to go to alternative fuel sources, either way.

Had the US ratified the Kioto agreement, it would only have delayed the effects of global warming by 7 years. So ratification of the Kioto agreement was not the solution.

what if the US does a complete switch to environmentally friendly energy sources?

1. The US has the ability to switch away from the use of oil.
2. Newest and best sources now seem to be switch grass (this is possibly two years away).

what happens if and when the US does decide to move to environmentally friendly fuel sources?

1. We have a healthier environment to live in
2. No more oil spils (such as Exxon Valdese and the burst pipelines in Arctic Russia)
3. No more global warming related issues
4. Unlimited fuel supply sources (e.g. corn, sugarcane, switchgrass)
5. No more blackmailing from unstable and Middle Eastern economies that dislike the West
6. No more wars over energy source procurement
7. No need to be all politically correct and diplomatic with hostile economies that the West has to deal with

but there is a down side for US friendly economies such as Canada

1. because the US will not be using the oil and gas, so economies such as Canada have to rely on something else (uranium, timber, tourism maybe?).

conclusion

Firstly, we have the technology to become environmentally friendly now, but will economies that depend on the US to buy their fuel sources, be able to cope and suffiently diversify?

Secondly, how long does the US have to wait. Do we wait until the Polar Ice Caps, Canadian permafrost melt irreversibly, and/or there is a colapse of the Oceanic Conveyor belt, or, do we switch over sooner?

 

[musclemoney]

Quote from cold:

AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHA

some of you can't even read, you don't stand a chance in trading

this was the funniest shit ever

its all your parent's fault,

those fuckers just fcuked and made you without thinking how the hell to raise you

Well, my Dad died in a chopper crash in Vietnam, so I don't think your comment is valid. I didn't get to remember him...

As for trading, I'm doing just fine, thank you.

I noticed in your hateful posts that you are having a difficult time spelling. Good luck with that.

Again, it's always a no-no to wish one with cancer ill will. In fact, it's pretty sick. Hope you get some emotional help soon.

Last, I would like to wish bogan a FULL recovery from the cancer! Hang in there!

 

[Bogan7]

Quote from musclemoney:

Well, my Dad died in a chopper crash in Vietnam, so I don't think your comment is valid. I didn't get to remember him...

As for trading, I'm doing just fine, thank you.

I noticed in your hateful posts that you are having a difficult time spelling. Good luck with that.

Again, it's always a no-no to wish one with cancer ill will. In fact, it's pretty sick. Hope you get some emotional help soon.

Last, I would like to wish bogan a FULL recovery from the cancer! Hang in there!

Mate thanks for that got my scans back yesterday and good news the brain was clean just in my liver and kidneys but they seem pretty confidnet they can stop the spread. As I write this I have two nurses in my room (one is a translator ) and they are spraying this stuff under my tongue for the next 6 hours so i cant even speak it is annoying but better than the alternative I reckon.

Cheers

 

[gwac]

What a load of BS. The same BS that comes from Al gore.

Quote from 1000:

Canada is in the deep, which ever way you look at it.

Primarily this situation is from a global warming point, and specifically looking at the Cryosphere. (all climate system components include the atmosphere, hydrosphere, cryosphere, biosphere, and lithosphere).

The Cryosphere is permanent and seasonal ice cover, including frozen water (e.g. in Canada and Siberia)), seasonal snowfalls, glaciers, polar ice caps, and permafrost.

Permafrost (permanently frozen ground water) contains around 500 billion tones of greenhouse gasses.

Relaxation times for the Cryosphere are tens of millennia.

There is evidence that the permafrost is melting in Canada where houses are sinking into the ground.

It is now thought that the Cryosphere plays and important role in global warming, because it has a high albedo and low thermal conductivity, however this effect is localized.

so what's the problem?

The problem is that it may be a positive feedback mechanism (i.e. irreversible)

1. melting cryosphere reduces the Earth's albedo
2. trapped greenhouse gasses are released
3. elevated Earth temperature
4. elevated sea levels

so what are we talking about?

this is all about the transfer of energy which is neither created nor destroyed

Actual science cannot argue with the increase in carbon dioxide at Mona Loa in Hawaii, where concentrations of carbon dioxide have gone from 315ppm in 1955 to 370ppm in 2001.

There is another problem!

The Hydrosphere, where the Oceanic Conveyor belt is on the verge of collapse

The thermosaline circulation occurring in the deep ocean are responsible for the heating of Northern Europe.

If the conveyor belt stops, ice age like temperatures will occur around Europe, but higher temperature will be seen around the globe

conclusion

1. Canada is screwed
2. Your survey of reserves may not be accurate as they take current and previous consumption into consideration only
3. Canada will have to pump more oil and gas to keep everything nice and warm.
4. Canada will run out of reserves quicker than the current thinking
5. One have to find solutions to problems that this generation and previous ones have created, and not leave them to the future generations (which is what the survey of reserves suggests)

second conclusion

1. We are having to find solutions to problems in our generation, that have been handed down to us by the generations above us, and we cannot continue this passifism of "It's not my problem."
2. The point is that we have to find solutions for future problems now.

Consider the analogy: they invented the car and aeroplane 100 years ago, and we use these instruments today, as a solution for addressing today's challenges. So we should take the responsibility to do the same for our future generations, in order to safeguard their future.

 

[1000]

Quote from gwac:

What a load of BS. The same BS that comes from Al gore.

There is undisputed evidence about increased carbon dioxide levels at Mona Loa in Hawaii, that's no BS, that is fact.

There is undisputed evidence that the Polar Ice Caps ice sheets are melting and one has broken off.

There is undesputed evidence about ozone depletion (unless you have been living on Mars for the last quarter century). We don't use CFCs in aerosols these days. Vehicles are being made environmentally friendly. HELLO, we have alternative fuel source development now! get bent.

All that is written is based on scientific evidence. The bs is in your head because you refuse to believe it.

Just like the housing crisis in the US today. We all knew about a projected 64% delinquency rate two years ago, because of the dumb assess who were taking on ARMs.

We knew we had an inflationary problem with oil and commodities, and that interest rates had to go higher and remain high, yet a load of ARMs kept getting sold.

So if that is all bs, why bother with alternative fuel sources, why bother with clean coal technology, why bother wasting R&D dollars on any of this during this time of recessionary fears. Why have oil at over $100 a barrel if Canada can supply us with all our energy needs. Why indeed?

Also why do the Euros have tight controls on jet engine emissions. Why build a Boeing Dreamliner, why build an Airbus A380, that cannot land at any airport.

Al Gore is right, and you also have to be thankful to him for inventing the internet and he ain't no conspiracy theorist either.

 

[bluebolt]

Quote from hcour:

IQ28 is such a maroon. I pissed him off recently and he actually sent me a PM that read, I kid you not: "Hello Kuntface. Long time no see. I'm just thinking about the last time I fucked your old lady in the ass."

Well can you blame me?.. she's got a nice ass