Guy drives his car for 870K miles

Quote from Pekelo:

News: "On the same day that the U.S. House voted resoundingly to lift the 25-year ban on offshore oil and gas drilling, it also rejected a measure that would have boosted the minimum average gas mileage of American cars."

Right on track...


Minimum gas mileage requirements don't need to be legislated.....competition will take care of that. Markets solve problems....give them some time.
 
Quote from mschey:

Minimum gas mileage requirements don't need to be legislated.....competition will take care of that. Markets solve problems....give them some time.

I would agree with you for the most part, but you are assuming a truely free market, without corruption and bribes, but that's another story.
 
Quote from mschey:

Minimum gas mileage requirements don't need to be legislated.....competition will take care of that. Markets solve problems....give them some time.

Generally I would agree, but what about antitrust laws? If we would just let the market do whatever it wants to do, we would end up with 1 giant conglomeration in each sector... (AT&T, Microsoft,etc.)

Also the market might act too late. With this all oilbusiness we are about 20 years late, and as it seems the Senate, Congress, whoever still haven't got the picture...

Not to mention that the Feds' actions at the LTCM fiasco wasn't a "let the market freely correct itself" policy, and neither is the existence of PPT...

So to think that it is a freemarket is extremely naive...
 
Quote from maxpi:

Actually I am not real sure about the part about the tighter specs. I read an article recently about how Japanese manuf. actually use looser specs and are good at making things work when things go wrong. Americans just want tighter and tighter specs to solve everything, which raises the price and reduces the flexibility.

It is tighter specs in this case. Have you ever heard of lean manufacturing and 6sigma? Japanese parts are made with tighter specs but they don't carry as much inventory and their lines are more efficient. They can produce a high quality car for cheaper. And it helps a lot that they aren't paying people for nothing. All of the big three american companies are paying thousands of workers that should have been laid off, but the union contracts prevented it. Now they just send them to the "rubber room" to read magazines or something for their entire shift.
 
Quote from Cache Landing:

It is tighter specs in this case. Have you ever heard of lean manufacturing and 6sigma? Japanese parts are made with tighter specs but they don't carry as much inventory and their lines are more efficient. They can produce a high quality car for cheaper. And it helps a lot that they aren't paying people for nothing. All of the big three american companies are paying thousands of workers that should have been laid off, but the union contracts prevented it. Now they just send them to the "rubber room" to read magazines or something for their entire shift.

Cache your points makes sense. I have been wondering, looking for input, based on the current UAW situation it seems to me that the only to save them if through protectionism. What do you think? Heavy taxes on all import made vehicles or lesser on import hq with american mfg, make sense or not?
 
Quote from dandxg:

Cache your points makes sense. I have been wondering, looking for input, based on the current UAW situation it seems to me that the only to save them if through protectionism. What do you think? Heavy taxes on all import made vehicles or lesser on import hq with american mfg, make sense or not?

Those taxes cause all sorts of dead-weight loss, and from a consumer's perspective don't accomplish the goal very well. Subsidies cost the consumer (read taxpayer) the same amount of money but at least accomplish the goal better.

I'm probably going to get some flack for this, but there is really only one long term solution that benefits the consumer and accomplishes the goal. Bust the union contracts, lay off the workers that aren't productive, and implement lean concepts. I'm confident that without the extra weight, the american companies can out perform the foreign automakers.
 
Quote from steve46:

I really love nice cars. I have several that I am always working on.

For going to and from the post office, the supermarket, the drug store, etc I drive a Toyota Tundra Truck. From a mechanical standpoint it is simply a superior design. Period.

On Saturday & Sunday however, when I want to have some fun, I get into a 87 Corvette Convertible, pay a hell of a lot of money to put gas into it, and then I run the hell out of it. I love it. Even though mechanically speaking it is a piece of crap.

Next month the gun metal grey Ford GT that I ordered so long ago is going to arrive, and I expect to pay more for car insurance than anyone in history. It will use so much gasoline that I will have to lease an offshore oil well. It will also hit 60 miles an hour in less than 4 seconds. I plan on sleeping, eating and being buried in it.....:D

Good luck in the Markets
Steve

Ford GT, really nice car, and one of the few that I would love to have when I hit my goals, and a nice car is in the works. Way to go Steve!

Gordo
 
Quote from jamis359:

Hyundai very recently outdid Toyota in the JD Power new owner survey in fewer problems reported per vehicle.
We just got our first Hyundai 3 days ago. Our first automatic EVER. I can't keep my right hand off the shifter!
 
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