Gun violence in UK: Britain shocked as lawmaker shot and killed

[Greenie]

Time for commonsense gun control laws in UK, oh wait you already do. How'd that work out for you? If criminals want guns they will get them, leaving the good little sheep defenseless. I do feel sorry for the MP, it is a shame she died so young and with children.


Killing of British politician Jo Cox stuns nation
Referendum campaigning suspended after attack on Labour politician

By Tim Hume, CNN
Updated 2246 GMT (0646 HKT) June 16, 2016
London (CNN)British politician Jo Cox died in a street attack on Thursday, a brazen and startling assault in a country where attacks on politicians are extremely rare and the slaying of a lawmaker is without parallel in recent history.

Described as a rising star of the opposition Labour Party, the 41-year-old is the first British lawmaker to be killed in office since Conservative MP Ian Gow was assassinated by the IRA in a 1990 car bombing.
Cox was shot and stabbed in Birstall, near Leeds in northern England, the Press Association news service reported, citing eyewitnesses. She later died as a result of her injuries. She had just finished a regular public meeting with constituents.
The gunman fired three shots, the final one at her head, he told the Press Association.
Another witness, Hichem Ben Abdallah, said the attacker kicked Cox as she lay on the ground until a bystander intervened and the attacker produced a gun and shot her, the Press Association reported.

He said that the gun looked homemade or like a sawn-off shotgun.








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[Snarkhund]

Horrible. Just unspeakable.

The bystander who intervened was shot as well?

I read elsewhere that the guy was a longtime mental patient. Not that anything could have been done.

MPs don't seem to have any kind of special security assigned to them and travel freely and unaccompanied in a way that would be unfamiliar to an American congressman or senator.

 

[Ricter]

"Time for commonsense gun control laws in UK, oh wait you already do. How'd that work out for you? If criminals want guns they will get them, leaving the good little sheep defenseless. I do feel sorry for the MP, it is a shame she died so young and with children."

No one is expecting perfection with gun control, that's a strawman argument.

 

[bone]

Gun control is a red herring. It completely ignores the inconvenient political truths that the mentally unstable should be cared for or in severe circumstances institutionalized, and the citizens and immigrants who demand that all other humans must comply with some radical fundamentalist interpretation of Sharia law or die as infidels are simply incompatible with Western Civilizations.

 

[Ricter]

Gun control is a red herring. It completely ignores the inconvenient political truths that the mentally unstable should be cared for or in severe circumstances institutionalized,

Indeed they should. Unfortunately, predicting if the mere mental difficulties all face sometime in life, typically youth, will become full on mental illness capable of leading to a mowing down of four dozen people is still an imperfect science, to say the least.

 

[wjk]

Indeed they should. Unfortunately, predicting if the mere mental difficulties all face sometime in life, typically youth, will become full on mental illness capable of leading to a mowing down of four dozen people is still an imperfect science, to say the least.

You ever watch "Minority Report"?

Seriously, though, if we want to strip constitutional rights because of the actions of a few, then we better look at the actions of a few through many lenses. How many people who would have been in mental institutions years ago walk the streets free? How many take their meds? Do we know? How can we stay on top of that? How many of these people are drawn to organizations who wish to manipulate them? If one bad apple makes the barrel bad, we have to look at EVERYTHING. That means ending the agenda driven shit. And I'm talking to all who want to blame guns. A lot more people are killed around the world by car bombs in terrorist acts than by firearms, or so it would seem.

Just to stay on point: It seems most of these mass murderers here in the US have one or two things in common. Mental issues or religious issues (I'm not talking about Christianity)...or worse yet, both in combo.

 

[ETcallhome]

Indeed they should. Unfortunately, predicting if the mere mental difficulties all face sometime in life, typically youth, will become full on mental illness capable of leading to a mowing down of four dozen people is still an imperfect science, to say the least.

aren't you the one who says anybody that supports Trump is crazy? Take their guns away until after the election? And what if he loses, claim they are still crazy because they are anti Hillary? Oh heck, it's too complicated, just take away everybodys guns. That's the democrat way, make us all pay for a few bad apples.

 

[fhl]

Thank God Britain Has a Gun Ban, Someone Might’ve Been Shot and Killed

 

[gwb-trading]

"Time for commonsense gun control laws in UK, oh wait you already do. How'd that work out for you? If criminals want guns they will get them, leaving the good little sheep defenseless. I do feel sorry for the MP, it is a shame she died so young and with children."

No one is expecting perfection with gun control, that's a strawman argument.

Yeah, because the strict gun control laws worked out so well in France and Belgium where dozens were slaughtered.

It's not a strawman when you can point to example after example of the failure of strict gun control laws to stop shootings.

 

[Ricter]

Seriously, though, if we want to strip constitutional rights

It's not black and white, you haven't been "stripped" of your Constitutional rights if you have to pass a background check to buy a weapon like the AR-15.