Gun Control

[Frederick Foresight]

So I fire 9 shots, take out the mag to replace (but one bullet is in the gun). If someone is stupid enough to charge me during that time, he gets shot. No effect at all.

With one bullet as opposed to 10? In any event, not being an action hero like Ben Carson, I think I'd take the momentary opportunity to flee. It may not be much but it would be all I'd have. Anything is better than nothing. You'd prefer an ongoing hail of bullets if you were on the receiving end?

 

[Tsing Tao]

LOL I'm pretty sure you can, and no I didn't know that

and i'll bet most of these nutcases won't know it either.

weak, weak argument man

It's weak because you didn't know about it? Anyone can youtube people doing it. If a nutcase wanted to kill people and was limited to a 10 round mag, he'd certainly do it.

 

[Tsing Tao]

With one bullet as opposed to 10? In any event, not being an action hero like Ben Carson, I think I'd take the momentary opportunity to flee. It may not be much but it would be all I'd have. Anything is better than nothing. You'd prefer an ongoing hail of bullets if you were on the receiving end?

By the time your brain registered that gunfire had stopped, the guy would be reloaded again. I'm telling you how it would work, honestly. You're not stopping anything with reduced mag sizes.

I've done a lot of training on this stuff before - on the receiving end as well.

 

[jimmiebarton]

By the time your brain registered that gunfire had stopped, the guy would be reloaded again. I'm telling you how it would work, honestly. You're not stopping anything with reduced mag sizes.

I've done a lot of training on this stuff before - on the receiving end as well.

Why are you so highly trained? Are you LE? We put our time in on things we think are important, or are you simply a worried civie?

 

[futurecurrents]

It's shocking how little you understand this.

I'm going to post something I posted a while back when someone a lot smarter than you tried to argue what you're arguing now. It's about a hypothetical gun ban and what happens:

1. All guns are made illegal. Sales are banned, a grace period buyback is instituted to return all guns to your local police department and you would get the avg. value of the weapon from the Federal Government buyback program.

The number of legally owned firearms in America - by civilians is estimated at 290 million. To be ultra conservative (meaning, to take the extreme low side on value) let's assume that the avg. firearm cost is $500. That means the Federal Government's buy back program at 100% of LEGAL compliance (forget the illegal weapons, lets assume criminals don't turn in their guns because the government wants them) is $145 Billion. LOL! Riiight. And that's the low side of the equation. And then there's the cost of the program, managing it and the destruction cost of all those millions of weapons. Who knows how high this goes?

Additionally, the ban on all gun sales removes $33 Billion from GDP, and approximately 200,000 employees from the workforce - and that's just the workers that work directly for manufacturers and direct gun sales. It doesn't count all the folks in the gun retail environment, shooting ranges, sportsman clubs, gun smiths, pawn shops,....whatever.

But lets ignore all this and say President jimmiebarton (God help us) doesn't care about the economic impact, he wants guns off the damned street. Ok.

2. Guns are removed from the legal population. Now we've got a few million illegally owned guns out there. Crime statistics show that the vast majority of gun crimes are committed by people who have illegal firearms. So you don't really get rid of any crime. Sure, you might make a 1% dent in the overall crime rate by removing the few and far between situations where some legal gun owner goes nuts or something happens, but this would likely be countered by a LARGE increase in violent crime as criminals now know they don't have to worry about homeowners and people with guns to defend themselves.

3. As time goes on, the price of illegal weapons on the streets skyrocket. Weapons begin to be smuggled in through the border, and legal residents go out and acquire an illegal firearm to protect themselves from the criminals that have them. I know I would. I'd get a pistol and keep it safe in case I was ever attacked in my home. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6, right?

4. People begin to be arrested for defending themselves with an illegal firearm, and subjecting normal law abiding, otherwise harmless individuals because they now own an illegal gun after you took their legal one away. Meanwhile the criminals using guns continue on their merry way, unmoved by President jimmiebarton's ban - because if I'm a criminal and I'm going to commit murder (which might incarcerate me for life), why do I care about your silly gun law?

Is that what you were hoping for?

Guns will NEVER be banned. Ever. Ever ever. There will never be the political capital to pull it off, nor the money to make it happen. But even if it did, it wouldn't work out like liberals want it to.

You have more of a chance of passing a 100% income tax. Or a constitutional amendment to make the national language Swahili.

As for guns wearing out, you know little about guns, apparently. Guns can be maintained almost indefinitely with some relatively simple care. My uncle has an M1 Garand from 1942. Still shoots perfectly. I baby my weapons, and they will likely be passed on to my son 20 years from now - and they'll be as good as new.

Cry all you want, it will never happen - you can be sure of it.

Don't need to ban all guns. Just handguns and assault firearms.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Why are you so highly trained? Are you LE? We put our time in on things we think are important, or are you simply a worried civie?

I'm not law enforcement. I've hung around a lot of guys here in Tampa that are, however, or are SOF from the base locally.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Don't need to ban all guns. Just handguns and assault firearms.

Great. How do you do that, again? I'm referring to the illegal ones. How do you get the millions of them off the street?

 

[futurecurrents]

Great. How do you do that, again? I'm referring to the illegal ones. How do you get the millions of them off the street?

I believe all of the mass murders involving children and theater goers and students.........................................................................wait for it...........................................................WERE DONE BY LEGAL GUNS

 

[futurecurrents]

No clips allowed. Limited internal mag only or bolt action single shots.

 

[Tsing Tao]

I believe all of the mass murders involving children and theater goers and students.........................................................................wait for it...........................................................WERE DONE BY LEGAL GUNS

Sorry, that is a completely incorrect statement. You really should look it up.

Additionally, the thousands upon thousands of gun related deaths each and every year are predominantly done by illegally obtained weapons. Not my stats, the FBI's.