gun carnage costs the us 100 billion a year.

Most of the gun violence happens in the Ghettos if it's gang related. Our inner cities are populated with people that have been driven into a blind alley by our wonderful, helpful, sitting-on-the-high-moral-and-intellectual-ground Leftists. Jessie Jackson is one prime example. His theology is Liberation Theology: marxist revolution repackaged as christianity. His lawsuit industry efforts have ensured that Blacks will never get anywhere in the private sector as employees. The risk of hiring a Black and later having to pay a settlement is enormous. So Blacks are herded into ghettos wherein the culture is continuously in collapse. Welfare money goes to women and the men, with no jobs, have to fend for themselves. Women rule the roost. Many men and women turn to crime which leads to shootings... so the Left is here to tell us that GUNS are the problem!!
 
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This gets to the heart of the matter. Michael Moore (now don't everyone groan) started his documentary on Colombine by asking "Are we a nation of gun nuts, or just nuts". And he made the very same comparison, juxtaposing the US with Canada, which has a very high gun Ownership rate and much lower gun violence rate compared to the USA.

Off the subject, but, did you know that in the navy (pre-women) if you refered to your rifle as a gun they would make you walk around naked holding your rifle while repeating "This my rifle, this my gun (pointing to one's penis). This is for fighting, this is for fun".

Stupid old joke, and I spent many years in Service. Zero to do with gun nuts.

I have guns, and about 500 rounds of ammo. I was a Military expert shooter, and I think there is no need for assault rifles, super big magazines, and there I think there should be a limit to what civilians can keep as far a ammo, bombs, and all the rest.
 
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Most of the gun violence happens in the Ghettos if it's gang related. Our inner cities are populated with people that have been driven into a blind alley by our wonderful, helpful, sitting-on-the-high-moral-and-intellectual-ground Leftists. Jessie Jackson is one prime example. His theology is Liberation Theology: marxist revolution repackaged as christianity. His lawsuit industry efforts have ensured that Blacks will never get anywhere in the private sector as employees. The risk of hiring a Black and later having to pay a settlement is enormous. So Blacks are herded into ghettos wherein the culture is continuously in collapse. Welfare money goes to women and the men, with no jobs, have to fend for themselves. Women rule the roost. Many men and women turn to crime which leads to shootings... so the Left is here to tell us that GUNS are the problem!!

Nice treatment. Go to Hollywood. You have a calling for scripting.
 
Cook and Ludwig reveal that investments in prevention, avoidance, and harm reduction, both public and private, constitute a far greater share of the gun-violence burden than previously recognized. They also employ extensive survey data to measure the subjective costs of living in a society where there is risk of being shot or losing a loved one or neighbor to gunfire

typical liberal religious bullocks, now they can measure something subjective. The logical paradox be damned, they gotta make their point .
 
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100 billion dollars. That is the annual cost of gun violence in America according to the authors of this landmark study...


Myth: The social cost of gun violence is enormous
Fact: Because guns are used an estimated 2.5 million times per year to prevent crimes, the cost savings in personal losses, police work, and court and prison expenses vastly outweighs the cost of criminal gun violence and gun accidents. The net savings, under a worst-case scenario, is about $3.5 billion a year. *296
Fact: Guns are used 65 times more often to prevent a crime than to commit one. *297
Fact: The medical cost of gun violence is only 0.16% of America’s annual health care expenditures. *298



*296 - Suing Gun Manufacturers: Hazardous to Our Health, Sterling Burnett, National Center for Policy Analysis, 1999
*297 - Taking Dr. Gary Kleck’s estimate of 2.5 million gun defenses each year, divided by the FBI estimates of crimes committed with a firearm.
*298 - Shooting in the dark: estimating the cost of firearm injuries, Max W and Rice DP, Health Affairs, 1993
 
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that is dwarfed about 100 to 1 by accidential shooting of children in homes where guns are kept. what is a life worth in those cases?

the dynamics change when you use your brain to think critically. its too bad right wingers only think in black and white.
The dynamics change even more when you use the facts moron.


Myth: Accidental gun fatalities are a serious problem
Fact: Firearm misuse causes only a small number of accidental deaths in the U.S. For example, compared to being accidentally killed by a firearm, you are:
• Five times more likely to burn to death
• Five times more likely to drown
• 17 times more likely to be poisoned
• 17 times more likely to fall
• And 68 times more likely to die in an automobile accident

Myth: More children are hurt with guns than by any other means
Fact: Barely more than 1% of all unintentional injury deaths for children in the U.S. between ages 0-14 are from firearms.
Fact: Children are 12 times more likely to die in an automobile accident than from gun-related homicides or legal interventions (being shot by a cop, for example) if they are age 0-14.
Fact: In 2001, there were only 72 accidental firearm deaths for children under age 15, as opposed to over 2,100 children who drowned (29 times as many drowning deaths as firearm deaths). [obviously we need to ban swimming]
Fact: Accidental firearm injuries for children and adolescents dropped 37% from 1993 to 1997, with the fastest drop – a 64% reduction – being for children.
Fact: Boys who own legal firearms have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use and are even less delinquent than non-owners of guns.
Fact: The non-gun homicide rate of children in the U.S. is more than twice as high as in other western countries. And eight times as many children die from non-gun violent acts than from gun crimes. This indicates that the problem is violence, not guns.
Fact: Fatal gun accidents for children ages 0-14 declined by almost 83% from 1981 to 2002 – all while the number of handguns per capita increased over 41%.
Fact: 82% of homicides to children age 13 and under were committed without a gun.

Myth: If it saves the life of one child, it is worth it
Fact: Firearms in private hands are used an estimated 2.5 million times (or 6,849 times each day) each year to prevent crime; this includes rapes, aggravated assaults, and kidnapping. The number of innocent children protected by firearm owning parents far outweighs the number of children harmed.
 
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