Guaranteed way to make big risk free money in options.

Quote from total_keops:

With IB we would end up paying 0.25 on over 10k contracts per month, contracts < 0.05. That would be 2500 comish so 7500 left.

Brilliant. Do it.
 
Please stop doing this on such a huge scale.

October 1987 is going to happen again. Maybe not this month, or this year, but it will. As Mark has recently pointed out in his blog, the markets are becoming more and more volatile.

There is no money without risk. None. I'm sure you know this, deep down. And I would hate for any beginners reading this board to think that there is.

Mary
 
Quote from drcha:

Please stop doing this on such a huge scale.

October 1987 is going to happen again. Maybe not this month, or this year, but it will. As Mark has recently pointed out in his blog, the markets are becoming more and more volatile.

There is no money without risk. None. I'm sure you know this, deep down. And I would hate for any beginners reading this board to think that there is.

Mary

Got a link to the blog. Would like to take a read.
 
King of Shorts:

Go away. Or put a gazillion dollars in an account and do it for yourself. Idiot. It doesn't matter if there's two hours, two days, or two months until expiry. Stress-test it on Bloomberg or Sun-gard. No clearing firm in the universe will let you short vol unless you can cover the implied fungible. Amateur.
 
Quote from bone:

King of Shorts:

Go away. Or put a gazillion dollars in an account and do it for yourself. Idiot. It doesn't matter if there's two hours, two days, or two months until expiry. Stress-test it on Bloomberg or Sun-gard. No clearing firm in the universe will let you short vol unless you can cover the implied fungible. Amateur.

That makes absolute no sense. Why would anyone sell options for 1 penny if it has 2 months of time value?
 
Quote from KINGOFSHORTS:

Work out a deal with the broker I mean the pennies are there for the taking and its foolish to not grab em for free and make a profit.

It's not free.

Brokers don't make deals of this type.

Margin rules are are tweaked by brokers, but set by the SEC. Your broker cannot ignore them,

No broker would ever agree to a 'deal.' They would never allow you to carry that much risk without a huge account. And people with a huge account don't take the risk you are suggesting.

In fact, the whole idea is so absurd, that I'm certain you are toying with us and cannot possibly be seriously suggesting anyone take your trade advice.

Mark
 
This would be like "shorting" lottery tickets.

You know - you walk in to the store, say "I'll short 1,000 Super Lotto please", they give you $1,000 cash and if the number picked don't match any of the numbers you got, you're off the hook.

On the other hand, if they do all match one of your tickets....

you got it...

you owe $10,000,000 to the state.

JJacksET4
 
Quote from KINGOFSHORTS:

On Expiration fridays sell way OTM calls or puts for 1 penny.

10000 contracts will net you 10,000 dollars

For example GE strike 13 call for Feb. GE is no way in hell going to 13 by saturday.


This is a secret no one ever dare speak.

You make money allowing people to close contracts out.

Think of Office space, where that guy does a program to grab that extra penny left over from transactions that occur.

But this is the legal way.

Were you trading on expiration day in September 2008 (the day after the financials short-selling ban)? Some of the most experienced options market makers in the world dropped hundreds of millions that day by doing exactly this strategy.
 
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