Greg Coffey retires from (no) Moore Capital

Yes we all agree that "walking away with $665 million after only "a few good years" is absolutely positively killin it."

there is a difference between his performance & what he puts in his own pocket - often it is divergent

Point is in a lot of these cases, it's more about being in the right place, at the right time than anything else (bull market trader)

The old adage "better to be lucky than smart" comes to mind

The guy had a ROR of about 4.5% since 2008
No doubt b/c he's managing OPM, he still gets paid $millions
Do the math if he was trading his own account (even $1M)

Before he joined Moore cap in 2008, Bacon was saying:
"best trader of his generation"
"legendary"
blabla

Why don't you ask Louis Bacon what he thinks of Coffey now



Quote from Rationalize:

Well .. in my world .. walking away with $665 million after only "a few good years" is absolutely positively killin it.
 
Those who are/were winning can cultivate whatever persona or say what they like (orders coffee when he's not around. LOL) & still have the Eltetards of the world lapping it up

When they can't hack it anymore they whistle another tune "more time to take the kids to school" or some other shit

Jock sniffing tards like Newworlddm would even let Coffey screw his mother/wife/GF for his "Holy Grail" secrets. LMAO

It's all BS anyway, this impression that he was some seat-of-his-pants trader trading 24 hrs...

Most of his performance cam from emerging market equities


Quote from Chausey:


Also, when will people stop fooling themselves with the whole persona of what makes a trader successful. Drinks coffee when no one is there, wears lucky tennis shoes, stays up all night. Sounds like dilusion and gives me hope that much money remains to be taken from well off people.
 
Quote from Chausey:

If it's true he made that much, what signal does that send to high net worth investors who seek out talented managers today. Perhaps that these guys only really look out for themselves and want to walk away with your money or money made by using your money on the front lines. You take all the risk, they make the risk free money. How the hedge fund industry is still standing today is the 8th wonder of the world. Smart money is acting like dumb money these years now. There is no need to analyze or trade when the Fed does it for you. Money spent on lobbying and ensuring loose money policy is far more effective use of capital today than some trader.
Also, when will people stop fooling themselves with the whole persona of what makes a trader successful. Drinks coffee when no one is there, wears lucky tennis shoes, stays up all night. Sounds like dilusion and gives me hope that much money remains to be taken from well off people.

I think more dollars have been lost in hedgefunds than made. I agree there's a problem when any service industry makes abnormal returns.

Regarding the coffee, etc. A lot of portfolio managers have some messed up personalities. At my old firm, i would wager most PM's would qualify as insane or at least sociopathic. I guess that's what makes them good - they don't think like everyone else. Paul Tudor Jones was like this, and according to a friend who has met him many times, is still quite nutty. From my experience it's mostly the macro guys who punt a lot and have the personality to do it in big size. It's not majority of the industry but it captures the imagination the way AC/DC captures the rockstar persona.

Watch the movie Trader (if you can find it online). It's a PBS documentary about Jones in the 80s. He has worked hard to get rid of it so your best bet is a chinese site like toudou or something. He had magic tennis shoes as well.

"These shoes used were Bruce Willis's. He's a stud."
 
Quote from mm19:

i have made this year 700% in my account.

however, i only keep enough money to lose 1 trade in account.

then i get client funds.

i make cash rate return in next 12 years and i have made 22% over 13 years.

:D

Why be jealous, learn a thing or two from this trader and move on. :D
 
Quote from running_bare:

Those who are/were winning can cultivate whatever persona or say what they like (orders coffee when he's not around. LOL) & still have the Eltetards of the world lapping it up

When they can't hack it anymore they whistle another tune "more time to take the kids to school" or some other shit

Jock sniffing tards like Newworlddm would even let Coffey screw his mother/wife/GF for his "Holy Grail" secrets. LMAO

It's all BS anyway, this impression that he was some seat-of-his-pants trader trading 24 hrs...

Most of his performance cam from emerging market equities


Lol. Very true. However in real life all the ass kissers and ck suckers do get ahead.
 
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