If a white man did what Brown did to a police officer - they would be dead from gun shot wounds... just like Brown.
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If a white man did what Brown did to a police officer - they would be dead from gun shot wounds... just like Brown.
You're a moron. True story: two guys get arrested in Detroit for the same crime (possession of cocaine) at about the same time. The White guy gets sentenced to rehab, the Black guy gets sent to prison. The White guy leaves rehab and becomes a successful stand-up comedian. This is followed by a successful tv series and even a Hollywood movie career. The White guy is Tim Allen. Good for Mr. Allen, he got a second chance. But the Black guy is now an ex-con.
There's your "disproportinate crime", asshole.
Do you have a link so that we can review the cases? I'd like to see if there are any discrepancies. You know, to squelch those on this forum that might think you are less-than-trustworthy with your information.
For example, I had heard that Tim Allen served 2 years in Federal Prison for his crime. He was supposed to serve life in prison, but he ratted out like 20 people and offered a plea bargain to the DA and got off with just two years.
Who was the black guy?
I read this story in a news magazine like twenty years ago so no I don't have a link. But they interviewed the Black guy who met Tim Allen when they were both awaiting arraignment or perhaps sentencing. He didn't begrudge Allen his good fortune, he just wished some of that special treatment had come his way.
But the stats on unequal sentencing for Blacks and Whites committing the same offenses are widely available, if you can arsed to look them up.
And the rumor about Allen serving federal prison time sounds like some made-up bullshit.
Ok, so you don't have any supporting information at all, but you think my info sounds like bullshit. I see.
Here is a link that shows exactly what I said, and how he got his sentence down to 5 years for giving up 21 individuals in the drug supply chain. He must have gotten out after two, because here is another link from smoking gun that states he served two years. In Federal Prison, just as I said.
Try as I might, I could not find any mention of the so called black man whose case was "identical", yet did not receive identical treatment from the justice system.
So you're right. One of us is probably peddling bullshit, and it doesn't appear to be me. Maybe you want to pass on this claim and move to the next one regarding the stats on "same offenses"? Please provide your source for that data, and we can move to that.
Actually the above is NOT A TRUE STORY ... but one of FICTION.
Allen was sentenced to 7 1/2years idiot. He served almost 2 1/2 years and rolled over on 20 other bigger drug dealers. I lived in Detroit suburbs 20 years. I've forgotten more about crime there than your feeble mind might ever know. By the way there are plenty of ex-cons in Detroit, most of them black since most of the population is black.
PS Allen was a stand up comic BEFORE the drug arrest. I saw him in Royal Oak back in the mid 70's at Mark Ridley's Comedy Castle.
At least try to get some of your story correct ......
The story I read referenced the early Seventies, not 1978. Allen and the Black guy had small amounts of cocaine, not serious weight, and they got unequal sentences. I had no idea Allen got back into the drug business after his rehab. Apparently substance abuse is a long standing problem for Allen, he went to rehab again in 1997 after a DUI.
As far as unequal sentencing in general :
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/04/15/opinion/unequal-sentencing.html
http://www.incarceratedvoices.com/cocaine-the-history-of-unequal-sentencing/
http://www.amazon.com/Unequal-under-Law-Race-Drugs/dp/0226684628
Ok, so where is the story or backup that shows the black guy and Tim Allen getting busted? Back up your claim, dude. You say they both got busted for the same crime and got different sentences. Support it with some evidence.
That link references an Opinion article in the NYT that even admits that not enough data was examined for a full conclusion, and that it warrants an additional study. It does not provide any examples of any cases reviewed, just a bunch of claims where "Researchers estimated that, throughout New York State, about 4,000 African-Americans and Latinos are sent to jail each year for crimes and circumstances that do not lead to jail terms for whites." Would be nice to see the research, or at the very least, some examples. I'm not saying it doesn't ever happen (there could be judges with an axe to grind) but I'm sure there are black judges out there that rule harshly on white people because of some personal vendetta, too.
LOL! The second article doesn't talk about racial disparity at all, just the difference in how drugs themselves were penalized. Did you even read that article before using it as evidence?? Read this quote from it, please:
Are you trying to suggest that whoever wrote the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 could foresee that it would impact blacks far worse, and that's why they wrote it and politicians passed it??
This is a link to an amazon book with no information on claims anywhere on the webpage. Short of going out and buying the book and reading it to see whether it makes sense or not, this does not support your claim in any way possible.
I can show you links to Amazon books that claim Santa Claus is real.
Do you want to stop now or continue digging? Or maybe you can provide some evidence to back up your wild assertions on unequal sentencing or Tim Allen.
Don't confuse Dickhead with facts. Makes his head hurt.
Facts? Is that what they call ad-lib now?