Government running out of money. Sell your house now, or anything gov't supports!

A house is a reasonable asset to own during times of (hyper)inflation.

Many people across the globe got their house for free basically during the seventies.

Ofcourse true hyperinflation is something else because of it's destructive influence on society in a wide number of fields possibly influencing the attractiveness of owning real estate.
 
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I agree - gov't policy manipulates asset valuations. Now the question is... will our Central Bank kill the economy or the currency?

My view? Long term, dollar is toast. Most currencies are toast. Looking back now, I don't know how society ever thought that fiat currency could ever be managed responsibly forever. What a joke... I even believed in it for a long time.
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Agree. Still, all that future worthless paper money has bought the world a bunch of goods.
 
I think Wilburbear's take on housing during a hyperinflation is actually correct even though it may seem illogical. Basic needs would inflate the most and be the first priority, thus almost all of one's income or cash would be dedicated to survival first.

Considering the massive glut of houses still unsold, for sale or rotting away, there is still far too much supply for housing to benefit from hyperinflation, imo. One could even argue that housing has already experienced the "hyperinflation" during the late 90's thru 05 or 06.

One last thing worth mentioning about the potential for hyperinflation benefiting housing prices. Don't forget that if prices started to climb again as they did over the past decade, that all of these bankrupt local governments would increase their take via property taxes.
 
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I think Wilburbear's take on housing during a hyperinflation is actually correct even though it may seem illogical. Basic needs would inflate the most and be the first priority, thus almost all of one's income or cash would be dedicated to survival first.

Considering the massive glut of houses still unsold, for sale or rotting away, there is still far too much supply for housing to benefit from hyperinflation, imo. One could even argue that housing has already experienced the "hyperinflation" during the late 90's thru 05 or 06.

One last thing worth mentioning about the potential for hyperinflation benefiting housing prices. Don't forget that if prices started to climb again as they did over the past decade, that all of these bankrupt local governments would increase their take via property taxes.
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I agree, but what if the banks plow these houses under rather than flood the market? a cash for clunker houses, perhaps?

Also, how do you avoid property taxes? a tent comes to mind...

I'm not sure you can avoid the upcoming increases in property taxes by renting rather than buying.
 
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During hyperinflation you want to have borrowed and bought as much house as you could, not own it outright.

However the government is going to be taking more money from sucke. . . that is to say from people who work for a living and do not take handouts from the feds. A house is a difficult asset to hide.
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I understand this, but if the economy is going to hell in a handbasket, I want to be assured I have a roof over my head.

It's almost impossible to have a paid for house and live in poverty.
 
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Must you show your intelligence every day.

White trash guys like you are exactly the problem.

If you do not understand that hyperinflation will destroy any wealth you have except gold and other rare things, not even god can help you.

As for you figuring out who to blame, don't bother, you'll never figure it out. :p
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kana, you're a real piece of work. I understand what hyperinflation is, but hard assets such as real estate will increase in value during hard times.

Regardless of how much gold you own, you will still need a roof over your head.
 
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I agree, but what if the banks plow these houses under rather than flood the market? a cash for clunker houses, perhaps?

Also, how do you avoid property taxes? a tent comes to mind...

I'm not sure you can avoid the upcoming increases in property taxes by renting rather than buying.
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Agree, that would be the last step, to demolish all of the existing unsold homes. There is some evidence it has already started in parts of California, I saw a few articles about it last year.

Well, as far as cash for clunker houses goes, they already have all of these federal programs in overdrive to attempt to "fix" housing prices or stop the rate of decline. The fly in the ointment has obviously been banks which are reluctant to foreclose and a growing percentage of the population declaring themselves squatters with rights.

I wasn't implying that one could avoid property taxes. Instead, I was arguing that rapid inflation of housing price values would also include rapid re-assessments of property values and much higher property taxes. Many states are bankrupt and the unions seem to have bought the system, so the required funding for all of these legacy costs need to be paid somehow. Most notably via property taxes.

I also don't believe landlords have a whole lot of pricing power in this environment. With tons of failed condominium projects, empty houses, apts, etc, etc...I get the feeling that renters still have the upper hand.
 
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kana, you're a real piece of work. I understand what hyperinflation is, but hard assets such as real estate will increase in value during hard times.

Regardless of how much gold you own, you will still need a roof over your head.
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you didn't severely insult me back so I'll give you a real advice

Having lived through Dinar hyperinflation (I lived in of those Baltic states)

As money turns into worthless paper, gold literally skyrockets in value. And price of all real estate loses 90% of value.

if you had the foresight to convert house into gold and you can buy 10 houses at the end of hyperinflation

so instead of 1 house in which you live

you can have 10

this is very rare for people to do because human mind simply can not let go

but I've seen neighbors who were smarter than me and did exactly this in 1991
 
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Why wouldn't you want to own your own house when hyperinflation hits?

Before the US defaults, there would be hyperinflation due to an attempt to monetize the debt, no?

If anything, during very tumultuous economic times, I would want to own my home outright.
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I don't think this monetization is as bad everybody thinks.

Treasuries are essentially cash with interest attached.

other countries and large corps. use treasuries to buy arab oil

Banks use treasuries as reserves for loans

they trade the same as cash for big institutions

would it be any different if these were dollars.

And if inflation was to surface you could always deleverage the banks and hedge funds.

knock down the reserve ratio and there you go
 
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