Government Motors has got problems again...

what the heck are referencing?
I find it easy to correct your krugmans or obamas when I see em.

I do not recall supporting lucrum in an specific way today... although I do at times give give out credit to Lucrum when it is due.

Jem, do you even pay attention to the posts you're quoting and the dates on them? Or should we call you the forum necromancer?
 
I'm a former fan of GM, and by that, I mean that's all I used to own.
70 Chevelle SS LS-6 454
69 GTO Ram Air IV 4 speed
79 Trans Am 4 speed
88 Monte Carlo SS with 400 sb and a 671 Weiand blower
88 Iroc Z (stock, and total junk)
Numerous GMC Z71 trucks
I could go on...

Today, I wouldn't buy a new GM vehicle if it were half price! IMO, GM deserves what they get for being in the healthcare, and benefits business vs the car business. I couldn't believe what went down in Bowling Green, KY at the corvette factory a few yrs ago. They'd shut down production for a month, but union rules meant workers had to show up at the job. What did they get paid to do during the shutdowns? Sit in break rooms. No, I don't feel sorry for GM at all, even though there will always be a place in my heart for what they USED to build.

Subaru!

Longevity, trouble-free motoring. (Outback and Legacy are especially nice for modestly priced cars. Even the ones with leather and "all the fixin's" are only just north of $30K.))

I also have a BMW 535, but it cost 2X the Subie. As I'm not a "badge whore", I prefer the Subie for the money.

Ditto on GM, unions, government. And BTW... Odumbo should face charges of TREASON for his prisoner exchange deal!

:)
 
Jem, do you even pay attention to the posts you're quoting and the dates on them? Or should we call you the forum necromancer?

I didn't want to hit jem on this since the same mistake has been made by several others. I'm the necromancer this time.
 
I didn't want to hit jem on this since the same mistake has been made by several others. I'm the necromancer this time.

Ah, thanks for pointing that out.

Regarding your article showing a big jump in car sales, that's not at all surprising with loan data the way it is.

* Average automotive loan term reaches record high of 66 months; loans with terms 73-84 months grew by 27.6%

Amusing. Auto Loans with terms between 6 and 7 years of duration grew by 27.6%! Wow, drive-a-mortgage is in style. With the average lifespan of a vehicle below the 7 year mark, what does that say for the sustainability of this trend, may I ask?
 
Ah, thanks for pointing that out.

Regarding your article showing a big jump in car sales, that's not at all surprising with loan data the way it is.

Amusing. Auto Loans with terms between 6 and 7 years of duration grew by 27.6%! Wow, drive-a-mortgage is in style. With the average lifespan of a vehicle below the 7 year mark, what does that say for the sustainability of this trend, may I ask?

That trend, should it continue, would depend on creditors, who are desperate in their own way these days. But the trend is changing anyway. People are driving less (what is the car ownership per capita data?), and there is the rise of the metro rent a cars, and soon there will be driverless cars, aka highway trains.
 
That trend, should it continue, would depend on creditors, who are desperate in their own way these days. But the trend is changing anyway. People are driving less (what is the car ownership per capita data?), and there is the rise of the metro rent a cars, and soon there will be driverless cars, aka highway trains.

You are certainly correct about the creditors being desperate in their own way, but that doesn't make it a good situation for the sheep taking out loans. This has a familiar ring to it...something about subprime housing, etc. From Experian credit:

Market share for nonprime, subprime and deep subprime new vehicle loans rose slightly in Q1 2014 to 34.34 percent.

Gee, that's never gone wrong for anyone before.

As for your other comment on the rise of alternative methods of travel, how will that work out for the auto makers, who have inventories now at all-time record highs? You like to point out how I'm bearish all the time, but you don't see anything wrong with any of this? Here's your chance to hedge on this thread so we don't revisit it in a year or two.
 
You are certainly correct about the creditors being desperate in their own way, but that doesn't make it a good situation for the sheep taking out loans. This has a familiar ring to it...something about subprime housing, etc. From Experian credit:

Gee, that's never gone wrong for anyone before.

As for your other comment on the rise of alternative methods of travel, how will that work out for the auto makers, who have inventories now at all-time record highs? You like to point out how I'm bearish all the time, but you don't see anything wrong with any of this? Here's your chance to hedge on this thread so we don't revisit it in a year or two.

Sales are still high. It's not like people are going to stop buying cars on the same day. It's a trend, could be decades in the turning.
 
Sales are still high. It's not like people are going to stop buying cars on the same day. It's a trend, could be decades in the turning.

It's amusing, as I seem to recall the same exact statements made by lots of so-called experts on housing in and around 2005.
 
Subaru!

Longevity, trouble-free motoring. (Outback and Legacy are especially nice for modestly priced cars. Even the ones with leather and "all the fixin's" are only just north of $30K.))

I also have a BMW 535, but it cost 2X the Subie. As I'm not a "badge whore", I prefer the Subie for the money.

Ditto on GM, unions, government. And BTW... Odumbo should face charges of TREASON for his prisoner exchange deal!

:)

Subaru's 3.6r and the limited package is a knockout combination.
 
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